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A Theist and an Atheist Watch Star Wars

March 4, 2011

Is the theist who has a belief in God as the origin of the moral law better equipped than the atheist for recognizing the moral difference between Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader?


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  1. March 5, 2011 12:55 am


  2. Matt Bowman permalink
    March 5, 2011 1:14 am

    Since both originate in a culture that still possesses the remnants of moral structure from Christianity, they will both recognize the difference with similar ease. What the theist will be better equipped to do is defend the difference as consistent with his principles. Atheists aren’t less moral or less affirming of human rights–often the opposite. They are, rather, less internally consistent in being so moral and affirming of human rights. Christians often have the opposite problem: deeply flawed in relation to moral practice; but at least having a standard to judge themselves as inadequate.

    • Ronald King permalink
      March 5, 2011 11:19 am

      Matt, I disagree with your generalization.

    • March 5, 2011 11:19 am

      “They are, rather, less internally consistent in being so moral and affirming of human rights.”

      Either you have been hanging around a really bad batch of Atheists, or I have been lucky. I have found the Atheists I know to be highly consistent in being moral and affirming of human rights.

      You must be talking about Christian televangelists or elected republican officials. Now there, you have quite a bit of inconsistency:)

  3. March 5, 2011 7:02 am

    No, not necessarily. That the difference matters, yes. But not that there is a difference.

  4. Ronald King permalink
    March 5, 2011 7:49 am

    It all depends on which one is listening to what is in their heart and following what is in it.

    • March 5, 2011 4:25 pm

      This is a relativist’s opinion

      • March 5, 2011 4:25 pm

        And is tantamount to saying that the Christian faith doesn’t matter.

      • March 5, 2011 5:22 pm

        Zach I think it is rather limiting to say the Christian faith’s only value is providing moral guidelines. There are many other valuable things that faith provides in addition to a strict moral code that almost no Christian I have ever known rigidly follows:)

        But seriously, it is entirely possible to know right from wrong without ever having been exposed to any particular faith. I grew up with a few people who were never exposed to any traditional religion and they (with one exception) are truly decent human beings fifty years later.

  5. March 5, 2011 1:03 pm

    This I’m not sure on, pretty much because Star Wars is Manichaeism II: Electric Boogaloo: The Movie: The Game.

  6. Bruce in Kansas permalink
    March 5, 2011 1:21 pm

    Ears are the only equipment they both need. The music definitely gives it away.

  7. Ronald King permalink
    March 6, 2011 9:21 am

    Zach, Your position is relative to your understanding of the bible. What does God put in the hearts of those who do and do not know Him and who will judge them? What does Jesus say to those who do many works in His name but do not have love in their hearts?

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