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Thomas Pots and Peter Kettles

September 25, 2010

Everybody’s favorite right-wing Catholic attack dog is continuing his dogged pursuit of fake Catholic groups, or as he puts it, “Catholyc astroturf groups”. I would like to draw your attention not to the target of his ire, but the argument he makes. He refer to a statement by bishop Broglio as follows:

“In his Monday statement, Archbishop Broglio explained that according to canon law a group may call itself Catholic if it has been approved by a bishop or recognized by the Holy See in some manner. “It is doubtful that the group in question has such approval. Therefore, it cannot be legitimately recognized as Catholic,” he commented.

Nothing wrong with this statement at all. But it is highly ironic to see it lauded by a person behind an outfit called “Catholic Vote” which endorses candidates like Sharon Angle because it sees an opposition to covering maternity and autism in health care plans as evidence of a  “pro-life and pro-family” stance. This is the same Peters who opposes social safety nets and openly mocks concern with climate change, and who arrogantly asserts his entitlement to believe whatever he wants to believe about healthcare reform. “Catholic” vote, indeed. Given the tenor of his positions, perhaps “Calvinist” vote is more apposite.

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5 Comments
  1. September 25, 2010 3:22 pm

    Sharon Angle because it sees an opposition to covering maternity and autism in health care plans as evidence of a ”pro-life and pro-family” stance.

    This is a little unfair. Catholic Vote to my knowledge has not commented on Angle’s latest statement, negatively or positively. Have you sent an email clarifying their position? They may very well be indifferent as you say, but shouldn’t you give them an opportunity to do so first?

    who arrogantly asserts his entitlement to believe whatever he wants to believe about healthcare reform

    You mean like how you depicted the bishops as stupid old men easily tricked by nefarious pro-life groups? Please; neither of you care much for the bishops unless they agree with you. Indeed, the bishops statement you quote here clearly condemns many of the groups you yourself lauded in the healthcare debate.

  2. Kurt permalink
    September 25, 2010 8:37 pm

    Please; neither of you care much for the bishops unless they agree with you.

    For my entire adult life I have read every major social statement as they were issued by the Holy Father or the US episcopal conference, as well as a number of lesser statements by them or their staff. I have attended Church sponsored conferences and seminars and tried to absorb what was said.

    In all cases I can think of, I find that I am generally in agreement with the statements and even when not, feel the statement has enriched my reflection on the matter. When I don’t concur, I think I have been respectful. I have never called someone else a bad Catholic for not concurring with the Bishops on a matter of civil legislative policy. I have never suggested that someone should be denied the sacraments or the ministry of the Church because of their political opinions.

    I defend the right and the value of the bishops speaking in the public square even when I think they are misguided.

    Even on the question of abortion funding in the health care bill, I never called the bishops “stupid old men easily tricked.” I simply made the statement that I personally have carefully read the legislation and, as a person whose professional field is legislative analysis, I found that the bill did not advance abortion.

  3. smf permalink
    September 26, 2010 4:13 pm

    I rather liked the fellows old blog, its pictures of the day were amusing, and often it drew attention to various shall we say in-house Catholic issues not covered in the mainstream. That said, I don’t much care for the new operation. Too much political and not enough Catholic for my taste.

    Which just happens to be my complaint about much of what goes on at this blog here too…

  4. NJCitizen permalink
    September 29, 2010 4:55 pm

    I cannot help but comment on the POV stated above by a certain Archbishop Broglio about what group or assembly may or may not call itself Catholic. If I read the archbishop correctly, when my last-name sharing family gets together for a reunion every couple of years, even though we are overwhelmingly practicing Catholics, our reunion picnic is not entitled to call itself Catholic unless we check with the local bishop first. This is patent nonsense, and would be most insulting to the older members of the family who were Catholics back in days when to be so was to invite prejudice and scorn. WE are Catholics, I as an individual, each of my faithful relatives, and the whole gang of us in the same picnic area. And that, as the saying goes, is the name of that tune!

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