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		<title>By: Ronald King</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2010/01/22/todays-hero-tomorrows-villain/#comment-70788</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronald King]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Austin,  You are not understanding what I am saying.  I know of these other matters.  Anybody can do what they do from the road.  Austin I understand very clearly what you are saying.  You do not understand what I am saying.
What I am telling you has been totally misunderstood by every movement.  We are fragmented both physically and spiritually and we are being deceived that we are united.  We must be united physically and spiritually in love with a focus on spreading that love through a common sacrifice that is greater than the evil that inhibits everyone from fully realizing the common human trance of our limited vision.
Everybody is holding on to their movement and unable to look beyond that movement to see what is actually necessary for immediate effectiveness.  The fragmentation real and the belief that we are united in this fragmentation is delusional and we move along at a snail&#039;s pace never thinking that the crisis of death calls for immediate supernatural sacrifice.
If you do not understand just say so.  You cannot see what I see but I see what you see and it is limited.
I am sad that extroverts seem to rise to power while the introvert is relegated to either following or misuderstood and ignored.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Austin,  You are not understanding what I am saying.  I know of these other matters.  Anybody can do what they do from the road.  Austin I understand very clearly what you are saying.  You do not understand what I am saying.<br />
What I am telling you has been totally misunderstood by every movement.  We are fragmented both physically and spiritually and we are being deceived that we are united.  We must be united physically and spiritually in love with a focus on spreading that love through a common sacrifice that is greater than the evil that inhibits everyone from fully realizing the common human trance of our limited vision.<br />
Everybody is holding on to their movement and unable to look beyond that movement to see what is actually necessary for immediate effectiveness.  The fragmentation real and the belief that we are united in this fragmentation is delusional and we move along at a snail&#8217;s pace never thinking that the crisis of death calls for immediate supernatural sacrifice.<br />
If you do not understand just say so.  You cannot see what I see but I see what you see and it is limited.<br />
I am sad that extroverts seem to rise to power while the introvert is relegated to either following or misuderstood and ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Ruse</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2010/01/22/todays-hero-tomorrows-villain/#comment-70786</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Austin Ruse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ronald,

This is just not what i do. I monitor and lobby the UN on life and family matters. There are such mass movements of prayer, as i mentioned before. Perhaps you should hook into them? There is Crossroads, which is a cross the country walk for college students. Check them out. As i have tried to stress in these posts here. The pro-life movement is not a single thing, does not speak with a single voice, does not act in lock step. There is something for every calling, including yours Ronald!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronald,</p>
<p>This is just not what i do. I monitor and lobby the UN on life and family matters. There are such mass movements of prayer, as i mentioned before. Perhaps you should hook into them? There is Crossroads, which is a cross the country walk for college students. Check them out. As i have tried to stress in these posts here. The pro-life movement is not a single thing, does not speak with a single voice, does not act in lock step. There is something for every calling, including yours Ronald!</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald King</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2010/01/22/todays-hero-tomorrows-villain/#comment-70754</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronald King]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Austin,  I believe we are all complicit in this culture of death that results in mothers choosing to have an abortion because we males have proven that we are better at fact finding and arguing than we are at sacrificing and creating peace.
We males exhibit very clearly to everyone what we truly believe about our faith and the limits to which we will sacrifice our comfort and security.
Austin, we males must create something outside the materialistic structures we have been functioning within to create change.  It seems that the progress we make is in relationship to the sacrifice made.
The greater the sacrifice the greater the progress.  
This is where Gandhi&#039;s example is extremely important to consider.  
Austin, you are in a position to have a tremendous influence on just discussing with other leaders the possibility of such a unifying and passionate expression of the love that is our faith and what we will sacrifice for our love for mothers and their children.
Imagine all of the catholic organizations being united under one umbrella and praying the Rosary as they walk across the U.S. with EWTN&#039;s mobile unit broadcasting their daily programs from the road.  Route 66 sounds like a good start.  This would be like a relay.  People volunteering one week a month to relieve others so they return to their jobs.  Imagine the youth that would love to stick it to the man in this radical act of freedom.  Imagine every well known celebrity that would want to join such a beautiful and loving act of faith.  Imagine how much money would be raised and the attention brought to pregnancy centers around the country that support mothers.  Imagine how many more services would be provided for their well-being through such an act.

All we need is the faith of a mustard seed.
If you think I am crazy then just tell me so and I will not bother you anymore.
God Bless all of us half-dead creatures who are attempting to save ourselves from further discomfort.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Austin,  I believe we are all complicit in this culture of death that results in mothers choosing to have an abortion because we males have proven that we are better at fact finding and arguing than we are at sacrificing and creating peace.<br />
We males exhibit very clearly to everyone what we truly believe about our faith and the limits to which we will sacrifice our comfort and security.<br />
Austin, we males must create something outside the materialistic structures we have been functioning within to create change.  It seems that the progress we make is in relationship to the sacrifice made.<br />
The greater the sacrifice the greater the progress.<br />
This is where Gandhi&#8217;s example is extremely important to consider.<br />
Austin, you are in a position to have a tremendous influence on just discussing with other leaders the possibility of such a unifying and passionate expression of the love that is our faith and what we will sacrifice for our love for mothers and their children.<br />
Imagine all of the catholic organizations being united under one umbrella and praying the Rosary as they walk across the U.S. with EWTN&#8217;s mobile unit broadcasting their daily programs from the road.  Route 66 sounds like a good start.  This would be like a relay.  People volunteering one week a month to relieve others so they return to their jobs.  Imagine the youth that would love to stick it to the man in this radical act of freedom.  Imagine every well known celebrity that would want to join such a beautiful and loving act of faith.  Imagine how much money would be raised and the attention brought to pregnancy centers around the country that support mothers.  Imagine how many more services would be provided for their well-being through such an act.</p>
<p>All we need is the faith of a mustard seed.<br />
If you think I am crazy then just tell me so and I will not bother you anymore.<br />
God Bless all of us half-dead creatures who are attempting to save ourselves from further discomfort.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Ruse</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2010/01/22/todays-hero-tomorrows-villain/#comment-70736</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Austin Ruse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 11:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I take the mention of states rights to be slur that i will let pass. If we believe in subsidiarity then we believe that sometimes the state is the level of society that should properly handle a problem. If we believe in subsidiarity, as i often tell conservative audiences, then there is even a place for the UN. 

bank preemtion? Nope.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take the mention of states rights to be slur that i will let pass. If we believe in subsidiarity then we believe that sometimes the state is the level of society that should properly handle a problem. If we believe in subsidiarity, as i often tell conservative audiences, then there is even a place for the UN. </p>
<p>bank preemtion? Nope.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2010/01/22/todays-hero-tomorrows-villain/#comment-70715</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kurt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Austin,

I am aware of American conservative&#039;s historic attachment to the principle of states right.  I think however you overestimate that progressives support the contrary.  Again, we certainly would like to see matters resolved on the shop floor through collective bargaining.  

Also, I take it you have not been following the debate over bank pre-emption.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Austin,</p>
<p>I am aware of American conservative&#8217;s historic attachment to the principle of states right.  I think however you overestimate that progressives support the contrary.  Again, we certainly would like to see matters resolved on the shop floor through collective bargaining.  </p>
<p>Also, I take it you have not been following the debate over bank pre-emption.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Ruse</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2010/01/22/todays-hero-tomorrows-villain/#comment-70714</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Austin Ruse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And by the way, the US government, private charities/foundations and individuals give billions to help the sick and the poor. On the other hand, these same entities and people protect the killing of children in the womb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And by the way, the US government, private charities/foundations and individuals give billions to help the sick and the poor. On the other hand, these same entities and people protect the killing of children in the womb.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Ruse</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2010/01/22/todays-hero-tomorrows-villain/#comment-70713</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Austin Ruse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A future Pope will one day apologize for all those Catholics who did nothing or were complicit in the killing of children in the womb in just the same way JP the Great apologized for those Catholics complicit in the Holocaust. Who on this blog will he apologize for? You, Ronald? Others?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A future Pope will one day apologize for all those Catholics who did nothing or were complicit in the killing of children in the womb in just the same way JP the Great apologized for those Catholics complicit in the Holocaust. Who on this blog will he apologize for? You, Ronald? Others?</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald King</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2010/01/22/todays-hero-tomorrows-villain/#comment-70709</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronald King]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Austin,  It seems that the federal government steps in because we catholics have failed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Austin,  It seems that the federal government steps in because we catholics have failed.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Ruse</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2010/01/22/todays-hero-tomorrows-villain/#comment-70705</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Austin Ruse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kurt,

I said, &quot;Roughly speaking&quot; federalism and this &quot;roughly speaking&quot; refers to institutions other than government, most especially the family. I think politically conservative Catholics have a very strong understanding of federalism as opposed to politically liberal Catholics who seem to begin adn end with the largest institutions of government. If it is not done by the federal government, somehow we are not being good Catholics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt,</p>
<p>I said, &#8220;Roughly speaking&#8221; federalism and this &#8220;roughly speaking&#8221; refers to institutions other than government, most especially the family. I think politically conservative Catholics have a very strong understanding of federalism as opposed to politically liberal Catholics who seem to begin adn end with the largest institutions of government. If it is not done by the federal government, somehow we are not being good Catholics.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2010/01/22/todays-hero-tomorrows-villain/#comment-70700</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kurt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Austin,

I think you are correct that most politically conservative Catholic understand it that way.  They also are mistaken.  Subsidarity is not fully understood if just taken to mean which level of civil government (in the American context, one of the most decentralized and layered governmental systems in the world, to mean federal/state/local).  

Subsidarity in its fullness refers not to levels of government but all social organs with an eye to the ability of people to participate.  

The three most referenced in CST would be the Church herself, the family and worker organization.  Of course, this implies that the Church, the family and trade unions are freely allowed to exist and even promoted by society and the state.  

Sadly, the strident hostility to trade unions by poliitcal conservatives is in direct contraction to CST and the ability to employ subsidiarity.  

One is led to assume when conservatives do speak of subsidarity, they do not mean addressing social concerns at the level they can be most effectively addressed, but at a level that is ineffective at addressing such concerns.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Austin,</p>
<p>I think you are correct that most politically conservative Catholic understand it that way.  They also are mistaken.  Subsidarity is not fully understood if just taken to mean which level of civil government (in the American context, one of the most decentralized and layered governmental systems in the world, to mean federal/state/local).  </p>
<p>Subsidarity in its fullness refers not to levels of government but all social organs with an eye to the ability of people to participate.  </p>
<p>The three most referenced in CST would be the Church herself, the family and worker organization.  Of course, this implies that the Church, the family and trade unions are freely allowed to exist and even promoted by society and the state.  </p>
<p>Sadly, the strident hostility to trade unions by poliitcal conservatives is in direct contraction to CST and the ability to employ subsidiarity.  </p>
<p>One is led to assume when conservatives do speak of subsidarity, they do not mean addressing social concerns at the level they can be most effectively addressed, but at a level that is ineffective at addressing such concerns.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Ruse</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2010/01/22/todays-hero-tomorrows-villain/#comment-70687</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Austin Ruse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is to say, most politically conservative Catholics....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is to say, most politically conservative Catholics&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Ruse</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2010/01/22/todays-hero-tomorrows-villain/#comment-70685</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Austin Ruse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kurt,
Most Catholics understand the term subsidiarity not to mean libertarianism but roughly speaking federalism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt,<br />
Most Catholics understand the term subsidiarity not to mean libertarianism but roughly speaking federalism.</p>
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