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A Telling Example « Vox Nova — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:43:32 +0000

[...] President Obama for anything resembling a peacenik such as myself, I wasn’t much surprised by his carefully crafted defense of perpetual war in his Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech. You don’t become the commander and chief by [...]

By: Gerald A. Naus

Gerald A. Naus — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:47:59 +0000

Si vis pacem, para pacem.

Btw if you haven’t read it, read “The Shock Doctrine” by Naomi Klein.

By: Gabriel Austin

Gabriel Austin — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:17:05 +0000

Si vis pacem, para bellum.

By: Michael J. Iafrate

Michael J. Iafrate — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:22:29 +0000

“The soldier’s courage and sacrifice is full of glory”

If for a just cause, I’d say it would be praiseworthy while simultaneously lamentable.

Whether it’s praiseworthy is debatable. Unfortunately, though, Obama said “glory” which is theological language, a word used to refer, for example, to the cross and resurrection of Jesus. It’s also, of course, used to refer to the human person, e.g. Irenaeus who said “The glory of God is the human person fully alive.” Note he did not say, contra Obama, that the glory of God is the human person locked and loaded, turned into an unstoppable red, white and blue killing machine.

By: Aegis

Aegis — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:47:54 +0000

“The soldier’s courage and sacrifice is full of glory”

If for a just cause, I’d say it would be praiseworthy while simultaneously lamentable.

In a unjust cause, courage and sacrifice are only a waste of something precious- human life.

My doubts are growing about Afghanistan. I initially thought it a just war, and I am not sure what the Vatican and the USCCB has exactly said on the matter. Perhaps I was mistaken, horribly mistaken.

By: Kurt

Kurt — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:36:44 +0000

It was an amazing speech. The President very clearly expressed and defended American policy. It showed that he is neither a war-monger nor a fool. It showed he actually has a vision of what needs to be done to avoid future war, particularly the call to update the structures of the post-war period. It clear drew from the thinking of Rev. Reinhold Niebuhr.

Oh yes, Princess Mette-Marit looked fab!

By: Michael J. Iafrate

Michael J. Iafrate — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 01:40:08 +0000

The other week, I saw a Marine kneeling, changing a tire on someone else’s stranded huge Mercedes. (This was near Camp Pendleton). I thought to myself, how apt – and if he filled up the car the picture would be perfect.

I’m guessing you didn’t have that camera of yours?

By: Craig Kelly

Craig Kelly — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:36:43 +0000

I am embarrassed by the vague (if not cynical) appeal to just war theory. Perhaps the President could tell us which conditions have been met?

And from the comment box over at Commonweal:
“I would like to see, for once, the just war theory used to explain why we are NOT participating in war.”

By: Gerald A. Naus

Gerald A. Naus — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:10:14 +0000

“War, in one form or another, appeared with the first man. At the dawn of history, its morality was not questioned; it was simply a fact, like drought or disease — the manner in which tribes and then civilizations sought power and settled their differences.”
He should have added….”And I haven’t really evolved past that stage.”

The only thing scarier than Obama is the alternative. Sarah Palin, eg, who’s exulting that more and more Jews are “flocking” to the “Holy Land.” I.e., rapture, baby!

This is a strange country indeed – on the forefront of technology on one hand, and in the intellectual stone age on the other.

By: Gerald A. Naus

Gerald A. Naus — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:02:18 +0000

“The soldier’s courage and sacrifice is full of glory”
This is not satire ? Sounds just like Wehrmacht times. Meine Ehre heisst Treue! (My honor is fidelity).

Speaking of groups of people in the singular rubs me the wrong way. Obama is no liberal, in Europe he’d belong to the Right (even the EU Right would never adopt “throw Grandma in the snow” social policies – and it’s much more pacifist than Obama)

Obama is an American president – that comes with frenchkissing the military, buying into the whole manifest destiny BS and making peoples around the world happy by force. Nothing like shooting peace into the heart of men.

By: Joshua B

Joshua B — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:40:14 +0000

Good post Sam.

Thanks for this.

I know he thought this way, and have never been a supporter of his, still its a bit depressing to see put so bluntly and for this occasion.

Come Lord Jesus.