11 Responses to “Re-personing ethics, de-personing the corporation”

  1. Ryan K says:

    Perhaps I’m displaying some of the ignorance mentioned above, but if corporations are legally persons, why are they not criminally charged with crimes when they break the law? If I murdered someone (or even if I dumped used motor oil down a sewer), I would be charged with a criminal offense.

    It seems to me that the “personality” of corporations has undergone a dramatic shift from the granting of personhood in the 19th century until today. I think it would be fair to say that at one time, most corporations understood their purpose as providing a good or service, and profit was a benefit to the owner for providing that good or service. Now most corporations understand profit as their purpose, and the provision of a good or service as the means to generate that profit. It is this shift that has resulted in the “psychopathic personality” we see in corporations today.

    If profit is the only corporate purpose, the focus of a corporation changes from meeting a human need (whether that need is food, transportation, shelter or information) with profit as a reward for meeting that need, to exploiting that human need. However, I’m not sure how we could effect a legal solution to this problem. Legally, corporations are required to consider profit as their only motivation and to do otherwise opens corporate officers to legal action from their own shareholders. Ironic that when corporations break other laws (such as murder) corporate officers are not generally subject to criminal legal sanctions. I’m not sure how rescinding the personhood of corporations would help.

  2. dpt says:

    Adopt a new lifestyle…values: “the primacy of being over having, of person over things.”
    Gospel of Life, Pope John Paul II

  3. Blackadder says:

    Actually corporate personhood long predates Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad, with dealt only with the subsidiary question of whether they were persons under the 14th amendment. I would also note that the argument against corporate personhood (or against applying Constitutional protections to corporations) would apply not only to entities like Microsoft and Wal-Mart, but also to non-profit groups like Amnesty International, to labor unions, etc. In other words, hardly anyone would favor the idea if they grasped its true implications.

    For anyone who’s interested, my review of the film The Corporation can be read here.

  4. Ryan – As far as why they are not charged, I think it’s partially due to a double standard. Corporations want to invoke the image of “personhood” for the purpose of protecting their “rights” but they avoid such techniques when it comes to their responsibilities. Human persons, of course, have both rights and responsibilities.

    I agree that reversing the idea of corporate personhood is not the solution, but only part of the problem. In their book cited above, Cavanaugh and Mander recommend several types of action to curb the power of corporations, ranging from more reformist to more radical: promoting corporate responsibility through boycotts and consciousness-raising, legislation of standards for corporate accountability, expulsion of abusive corporations, revoking corporate charters, eliminating limited liability and corporate personhood, dismantling large corporations and conglomerates, antitrust laws, and dismantling global trade organizations, replacing them with new ones that promote economic democracy.

    Blackadder – I’ll have to take your word for it that this aspect of corporate law has analogous applications to Amnesty International and labor unions. Assuming it does, it seems obvious that the kinds of “protections” that AI and unions would be interested in are far far different than those that corporations are interested in. It is unclear to me how revoking corporate personhood would affect such groups or why whatever “protection” they seek would have to be enshrined in that way.

  5. Blackadder says:

    It is unclear to me how revoking corporate personhood would affect such groups or why whatever “protection” they seek would have to be enshrined in that way.

    Because they are juridical persons.

    Corporate personhood originally was (and remains) a means of consumer and worker protection. Since you can only sue a (legal) person, getting rid of personhood would mean that people who were injured by corporations would have no remedy (I mean, you might be able to sue the underlying or whoever who actually physically harmed you, but chances are his pockets aren’t that deep).

  6. But again, I don’t see what this has to do with Amnesty International.

  7. Blackadder says:

    Mike,

    Amnesty International *is* a corporation (at least Amnesty International USA is, I don’t know how they are organized in other countries). So when you’re talking about getting rid of personhood for corporations, you’re talking about getting rid of it for AIUSA.

  8. You’ll hear no complaints from me on that. Even if AI is technically categorized as a “corporation,” its purpose is not the generation of profit.

  9. Blackadder says:

    So you don’t have a problem with AIUSA being denied First Amendment rights? Or people lacking the ability to sue a corporation when they are harmed by it?

  10. BA – Not recognizing AIUSA as a “person” would not necessarily mean denying First Amendment rights. Similarly, removing the “personhood” of corporations would not necessarily mean corporations could not be held accountable for what they do. In reality corporate personhood does not seem to result in corporations being held accountable more often.

    Basically you seem to miss that just as corporate personhood is not set in stone, whatever results from the reversal of that definition that you might imagine would not be set in stone and could be dealt with in other ways.

  11. David Raber says:

    Ryan writes:

    “I think it would be fair to say that at one time, most corporations understood their purpose as providing a good or service, and profit was a benefit to the owner for providing that good or service.”

    I’m afraid that capitalism has always been about making a buck, period–or at any rate this is the overwhelming tendency. There will always be those who care about their work and take great pleasure and pride in providing an excellent product or service, but these people are working not in harmony with but against the system, which remorselessly promotes the lowest possibly quality at the highest possible price.