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  1. blackadderiv permalink
    February 25, 2009 1:37 pm

    Of the three, I would also be inclined to favor the third approach.

  2. blackadderiv permalink
    February 25, 2009 1:52 pm

    Incidentally, I’d note that Denmark was recently ranked one of the ten most economically free countries on earth, according to the yearly Index of Economic Freedom put out by Heritage (Denmark got 80 points out of 100, compared to 80.7 for the U.S.). In fact, if you look at the subrankings, Denmark actually scores higher on both business freedom and labor freedom than does the United States.

  3. February 25, 2009 3:55 pm

    I think this is the first post by MM that I agree with.

  4. February 25, 2009 4:01 pm

    Of the options, I concur with Blackadder in preferring #3. (As it happens, I’d put up a post on American Catholic today exploring the possibility that simply calling unemployment a social benefit rather than “insurance” that only applies under certain circumstances would be better.)

    Where I’d question the options you lay out here is in the implicit assumption that this _must_ be something done by the state. That appears to be the assumption that the Compendium of CST is working with, but then it’s written to speak to a world in which statism is waxing and all intermediary forms of social organization and obligation are waning.

    Were such a thing achievable, I would be much more in favor of this kind of safety net being provided at a much more local level. I think this would be far more in keeping with solidarity and subsidiarity (it’s hard to have any real sense of solidarity with 300 million other people, many of them thousands of miles away) and would help maintain a sense of mutual obligation: Those providing money to those needing it and those needing it to improve their lot as quickly as possible so as not to be a burden.

    There’s no clear path to such a situation now, and so as a conservative I don’t advocate trying to make sudden changes. But in choosing what incremental moves to support or oppose I would tend to support things that move more in that direction and oppose things that move farther from it.

  5. February 25, 2009 4:44 pm

    Actually, having unions manage the insurance scheme would better respect subsidiarity.

  6. February 25, 2009 4:54 pm

    Theoretically, yes. Though I think you’d need rather different unions from what we see in America today in that case.

    First off, most people don’t belong to unions and have no reason to. (Because the ones we have exist primarily for collective bargaining purposes, which most of us don’t need.)

    There’s also the issue that having industry segregated unions might make them ill suited to provide unemployment assistance during an industry-wide downturn. (For example, how much help would auto worker or construction worker unions be for the unemployed right now?) This might be especially awkward if one of the main things out of work people needed assistance with was learning to work in a new industry.

    How about a small local grouping, such as a parish?

  7. blackadderiv permalink
    February 25, 2009 5:01 pm

    Actually, having unions manage the insurance scheme would better respect subsidiarity.

    Good point. Mutual aid societies used to provide a sort of unemployment insurance for their members before the State took over the role, and if something like that could occur again this would be beneficial both from a Catholic and a purely secular standpoint.

  8. February 25, 2009 5:18 pm

    Agreed, BA.

  9. March 1, 2009 11:44 am

    I second essentially everything everyone else has said! #3 of the choices, but intermediary institutions would be a better place.

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