It would seem these centers are all run by liberals. Their clientele — women actually considering abortion and much more directly connected to the act of abortion, never get refered to in the wonderfully descriptive terms that get applied to simple Obama voters — murderers, blood-thirsty, vampiric, infant-slaughtering, etc.

It would be interesting if conservatives would set up some pregnancy centers so these women could be told what they really are.

I voted pro-life. I did not vote for John McCain. So saying I voted for McCain would not be honest.

But your post certainly demonstrates your fealty to the Democratic party. I’ll grant Vox Novans that; they never claimed to be voting pro-life, they manned up and said they were voting for one of the two parties of death.

What’s amazing is that I read this shortly after I had a conversation with my 12 year old daughter about the election. She first asked me if I was mad that Obama won the election. I told her no, I wasn’t mad, just sad and discouraged. I told her it was a good thing that the US had elected a black man as president. The tragedy was the actual man they elected not his skin color. She then told me that her friend was asked by a black girl at school whom she supported for president. Her friend said McCain. The girl asking promptly called her a racist. What really broke my heart was what my daughter said next. She said “I think this election is making me racist”. I told my daughter she was not racist, and had every right to be upset that people throw that term around so easily. I told her that unless she thought people were inferior because of the color of their skin and should be discriminated against and have their rights, civil and or human taken away because of their skin or ethnicity, she was not racist. And then thinking of people like Michael Iafrate and the poison they spread, I informed her that there were people that would call her and me racist simply for being white in America and not subscribing to a certain political agenda. They spread lies that only whites could be racist and blacks and other minorities could not be racist. I told her these were ideologies and theories used as weapons to intimidate people and gain power and advantage. I felt it was a good teaching moment and opportunity to innoculate her against the kind of bs political agiprop she might encounter in college down the road. Of course I didn’t use the term bs in front of her. But yes, I imagine there will be plenty of comments filtered through the prism of race to come. Sad. Very sad.

This is a proper toned sentiment. I thank you for your model. So often the idealization of “the vote” is made so that, for instance one is “voting for life” instead of voting for a Republican. It makes it somehow more…ideal. And exempts the voter from the awful things that the candidate may also stand for.

Its quite another thing to have said “I’m voting for McCain” than to say “I’m voting ‘pro-life.’” Voting for McCain was so much more pedestrian, perhaps dirty even.

My suggestion to the folks who were voting for life in Blogland: you should have just just “manned up” and say you’re voting for the McCain, voting for a continued Republican presence in the White House.

Thanks again for the post.

Martin Luther King:

More and more I see this. I’ve seen too much hate to want to hate myself; hate is too great a burden to bear. I’ve seen it on the faces of too many sheriffs of the South. I’ve seen hate. In the faces and even the walk of too many Klansmen of the South, I’ve seen hate. Hate distorts the personality. Hate does something to the soul that causes one to lose his objectivity.

[T]he Greek language comes out with the word, “agape.” Agape is more than romantic or aesthetic love. Agape is more than friendship. Agape is creative, understanding, redemptive good will for all men. It is an overflowing love that seeks nothing in return. Theologians would say that this is the love of God operating in the human heart. When one rises to love on this level, he loves every man. He rises to the point of loving the person who does the evil deed while hating the deed that the person does. I believe that this is the kind of love that can carry us through this period of transition. This is what we’ve tried to teach through this nonviolent discipline.

So in many instances, we have been able to stand before the most violent opponents and say in substance, we will meet your capacity to inflict suffering by our capacity to endure suffering. We will meet your physical force with soul force. Do to us what you will and we will still love you. We cannot in all good conscience obey your unjust laws because non-cooperation with evil is just as much moral obligation as is cooperation with good, and so throw us in jail and we will still love you. Threaten our children and bomb our homes and our churches and as difficult as it is, we will still love you. Send your hooded perpetrators of violence into our communities at the midnight hours and drag us out on some wayside road and beat us and leave us half-dead, and as difficult as that is, we will still love you. But be assured that we will wear you down by our capacity to suffer and one day we will win our freedom. We will not only win freedom for ourselves, we will so appeal to your heart and your conscience that we will win you in the process – and our victory will be a double victory.”

From what I have read, McCain lost Hispanics over economic issues, not immigration.

Bingo, RCM. The people on the American political right who can be convinced, have been. Time for the Pro-Life movement to start working on the left. There are rich pickings on the left, believe me.

Yeah I am mad about that. I am pretty mad because as McCain was risking his poltical life Obama killed it by a poison pill (Can’t let Bush look good or McCain look good so let the deprotations continue for two years for the greater good or health care or Democrat victory).

THere was racism here but I am afraid supposly neutral observers “above party” and all the balderdash might not have walked the talk

Chris Cannon , a huge friend of Immigration reform and vocal opponent of anti Catholic groups, from Utah went down .Not a pip from Catholic SOcial justice Advocates. Sen Lindsey Graham of SC that had horrid ads ran against him and not one call out on any of the Catholic Justice groups mailing list I am on that he was under attack

It is a huge shame that many Catholic Hispanisc thought that McCain was against them on this issue. Too bad that did not get corrected

I view this as a huge scandal and while Immigration issues might be boring to many Catholic Justice advocates that talk IRaq and Health Care for those of us that took the arrows we were expecting at least some support or at least publicity on this issue

And I say if because, even though my professors are currently gloating that in short order we will be removed from their midst, I still suspect Obama’s just another politician. I hope FOCA never sees passage. But if it does, and you guys aren’t the most vocal opponents in our midst, if you do not work more tirelessly to galvanise us in opposition to this debacle than you did to create it, you will be doubly responsible, you who helped lay the groundwork for the situation.

You will have to answer for that at the Eschaton. And I would not be your friends if I did not remind you of it.

Sure, if we don’t lose ground in the process. But if, in 8 years, we find abortion enshrined even further into law, especially to the point that faithful Catholics are barred from the practises of healthcare and medicine, those huge setbacks were made possible by you.

Are you human enough to accept the credit?