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	<title>Comments on: Stanley Hauerwas on having children</title>
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		<title>By: j. edwards</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ben-

i&#039;m not sure any scientist would say that a &quot;clump of cells is really a person.&quot; am i reading you right? personhood?

hauerwas, as far as i have read, is concerned less with the questions of personhood and more with christians practicing hospitality, even towards &quot;clumps of cells.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ben-</p>
<p>i&#8217;m not sure any scientist would say that a &#8220;clump of cells is really a person.&#8221; am i reading you right? personhood?</p>
<p>hauerwas, as far as i have read, is concerned less with the questions of personhood and more with christians practicing hospitality, even towards &#8220;clumps of cells.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike McG...</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome. Thanks, Michael. 

Well timed, also. The toxic, contemptuous exchanges hereabouts had nearly pushed me away from Vox Nova.

Let&#039;s here more from writers like Hawerwas and Kicanas who don&#039;t fit neatly into binary progressive/conservative categories.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome. Thanks, Michael. </p>
<p>Well timed, also. The toxic, contemptuous exchanges hereabouts had nearly pushed me away from Vox Nova.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s here more from writers like Hawerwas and Kicanas who don&#8217;t fit neatly into binary progressive/conservative categories.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[G Alkon,

It isn&#039;t my faith that tells me that a clump of cells is really a person, it is science.  My faith tells me that I must therefore nurture that person.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G Alkon,</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t my faith that tells me that a clump of cells is really a person, it is science.  My faith tells me that I must therefore nurture that person.</p>
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		<title>By: G Alkon</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[a great quotation -- 
his writings on child-bearing have taught me so much...
if only they were more widely-read.

when you get people talking about blastocysts as a &quot;cute babies,&quot; you know you&#039;re dealing with wildly perverse commodity fetishism.

if people -- both pro-life and pro-&quot;choice&quot; (note that I don&#039;t credit that position) -- could better understand _why_ abortion is so horrible, we could get somewhere.

it doesn&#039;t do any good to insist that a blastocyst is &quot;really&quot; a baby and that ending the life of a blastocyst is murder.  it trivializes faith to say, &quot;my &#039;faith&#039; tells me that the clump of cells is &#039;really&#039; a person.&quot;

no, the clump of cells is a gift from God, in need of proper cultivation and reception.  it is the refusal to receive the gift of what _could be_ a person that makes abortion so evil.  it is equally the refusal to have faith that one lives in a community that welcomes the young and vulnerable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a great quotation &#8212;<br />
his writings on child-bearing have taught me so much&#8230;<br />
if only they were more widely-read.</p>
<p>when you get people talking about blastocysts as a &#8220;cute babies,&#8221; you know you&#8217;re dealing with wildly perverse commodity fetishism.</p>
<p>if people &#8212; both pro-life and pro-&#8221;choice&#8221; (note that I don&#8217;t credit that position) &#8212; could better understand _why_ abortion is so horrible, we could get somewhere.</p>
<p>it doesn&#8217;t do any good to insist that a blastocyst is &#8220;really&#8221; a baby and that ending the life of a blastocyst is murder.  it trivializes faith to say, &#8220;my &#8216;faith&#8217; tells me that the clump of cells is &#8216;really&#8217; a person.&#8221;</p>
<p>no, the clump of cells is a gift from God, in need of proper cultivation and reception.  it is the refusal to receive the gift of what _could be_ a person that makes abortion so evil.  it is equally the refusal to have faith that one lives in a community that welcomes the young and vulnerable.</p>
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