Two Baltimore nuns branded “terrorists” by Maryland State Police

Here are two “terrorists” that I think Obama should “pal around with.”

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17 Responses to “Two Baltimore nuns branded “terrorists” by Maryland State Police”

  1. j. edwards says:
    October 12, 2008 at 11:41 pm

    colombus gets a holiday and these nuns are terrorists?

  2. Morning's Minion says:
    October 12, 2008 at 11:57 pm

    Yes!

  3. TeutonicTim says:
    October 13, 2008 at 8:19 am

    I’m thinking they’re lucky it was an unmanned silo!

  4. Tony says:
    October 13, 2008 at 8:55 am

    So Michael, are trying to draw some sort of parallel between a man who bombed buildings and killed people and a couple of protesting nuns?

  5. Mark DeFrancisis says:
    October 13, 2008 at 9:23 am

    Michael,

    Next time, provide graphs…

  6. Pentimento says:
    October 13, 2008 at 9:40 am

    I do not mean to accuse anyone unjustly, so please forgive me if it seems that I am. But it seems to me that, in the culture war that this election has become, these nuns would come down on the wrong side of those who are trying to keep Obama from the White House. In fact, in my personal, anecdotal experiene with Catholics who are conservatives in the current American political definition (some in my own family), the fact that these nuns were protesting for peace would be in itself suspicious, and that they did so by trespassing and vandalism would justify throwing the book at them.

  7. adamv says:
    October 13, 2008 at 9:41 am

    Michael,

    You and your stupid liberal claptrap. Why don’t you grow a pair and start realizing that freedom can only be maintained through force, you whiny sissy.

  8. Pentimento says:
    October 13, 2008 at 9:41 am

    Oh, and by the way, I should say that I think the way the nuns have been treated is an outrage.

  9. David Nickol says:
    October 13, 2008 at 10:00 am

    So Michael, are trying to draw some sort of parallel between a man who bombed buildings and killed people and a couple of protesting nuns?

    William Ayers did not kill anyone, and the only people the Weather Underground killed were themselves. Three of them died when a bomb they were assembling exploded.

    As Obama points out, he was 8 years old when the Weather Underground was active. By the time Obama and Ayers came into contact, Ayers was Distinguished Professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago who was awarded the 1997 Chicago Citizen of the Year Award. If yesterday’s appearance by Sarah Palin is any indication, it looks like even she has dropped the attempt at guilt by association.

  10. TeutonicTim says:
    October 13, 2008 at 11:41 am

    Three of them died when a bomb they were assembling exploded.

    A bomb William Ayers designed and had them assemble because he wasn’t dumb enough. I’d say that counts as him killing people.

  11. David Nickol says:
    October 13, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    A bomb William Ayers designed and had them assemble because he wasn’t dumb enough. I’d say that counts as him killing people.

    Yes, of course you would say it, but that’s because you and so many others are willing to distort the truth when you think it helps you make a case against Obama. Those in the Weather Underground were misguided in their tactics, although in my opinion not in their opposition to the Vietnam War — the war in which we had the My Lai Massacre in which as many as 200 innocent civilians were murdered, and the only consequence was one person sentenced to prison for less than six months.

  12. TeutonicTim says:
    October 13, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    I didn’t say anything about Obama, just a correction about Ayers. I guess that’s an indication of how much you and so many others are willing to distort the truth if you think it will help Obama.

    What you said was equivalent to putting land mines in a schoolyard, blowing kids up, and saying that the person who put them there wasn’t responsible for the deaths. Nice!

  13. David Nickol says:
    October 13, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    What you said was equivalent to putting land mines in a schoolyard, blowing kids up, and saying that the person who put them there wasn’t responsible for the deaths. Nice!

    You’ll have to explain this one. What I said was equivalent to putting land minds in a schoolyard?

    I may have said some unfortunate things in my lifetime, but I don’t believe I have ever said anything that was equivalent to putting land mines in a schoolyard and killing children.

    If you are saying what Ayers did was equivalent to putting land mines in a schoolyard, and so on, it is a very strange moral analysis. The three who were killed were not innocent school children who walked into a mined playground. They were willing conspirators assembling a bomb designed to kill people. It’s a kind of poetic justice that they died doing it. It is utterly bizarre to compare them to innocent children. Ayers certainly had some degree of moral culpability for their deaths, but he didn’t kill them.

  14. Jimmy Mac says:
    October 13, 2008 at 6:09 pm

    I think they taught me many years ago!

  15. TeutonicTim says:
    October 13, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    Ayers certainly had some degree of moral culpability for their deaths

    At least you admit something. I guess anyone who puts others in similar situations (say, the President) isn’t guilty of murder as we hear so often…

  16. Lizzy says:
    October 13, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    The Sisters are Dominicans … I”m surprised they don’t know what St. Thomas has to say about the moral necessity of obeying just laws.

    Of course, they would probably say that the possession of missile silos is unjust. Trespassing and vandalism laws? Also unjust?

    There are also people who get themselves arrested protesting abortion …the current abortion laws, are of course, unjust. But the law forbidding the blocking of a sidewalk, or a driveway?

    My understanding is that a number of Sisters are involved in the anti-missile/school of the Americas thing. As far as I know, they are almost all older ladies. Pretty harmless.

    On the other hand, the government has a right to be itchy about unapproved people getting near a nuclear missile. And frankly, I want them to be!

  17. Michael J. Iafrate says:
    October 13, 2008 at 8:35 pm

    Of course, they would probably say that the possession of missile silos is unjust. Trespassing and vandalism laws? Also unjust?

    If they are like most other participants in these sorts of actions, they do not protest the punishments they receive for their actions. They do their time.

    My understanding is that a number of Sisters are involved in the anti-missile/school of the Americas thing.

    Well, those are two separate but related movements, but yes, a LOT of sisters are involved in them. So are a lot of priests, and even some bishops.

    As far as I know, they are almost all older ladies.

    Most sisters are, of course, older ladies so this makes sense. But the two movements you describe include equal numbers of all ages. The anti-SOA movement, for example, is largely comprised of young people.

    On the other hand, the government has a right to be itchy about unapproved people getting near a nuclear missile. And frankly, I want them to be!

    I hope you are equally thankful for these prophetic individuals who remind you of what Christianity is about. You won’t be getting that from the u.s. government.