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		<title>By: Mark DeFrancisis</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/09/08/palin-and-the-politics-of-family/#comment-36253</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark DeFrancisis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jonathan,

Substantively? 

How many times have we ridden this merry-go-round?!!

You make it seem as though you are making claims bolstered by reason, in whatever manner. But you are so outside mainstream, respectable  academia  and its methods on this one, and you should know it. 

Please realize  thatI respect you personally  and enjoy your other writing very, very much, but cannot understand this unfortunate, unbecoming glitch in your thinking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan,</p>
<p>Substantively? </p>
<p>How many times have we ridden this merry-go-round?!!</p>
<p>You make it seem as though you are making claims bolstered by reason, in whatever manner. But you are so outside mainstream, respectable  academia  and its methods on this one, and you should know it. </p>
<p>Please realize  thatI respect you personally  and enjoy your other writing very, very much, but cannot understand this unfortunate, unbecoming glitch in your thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: jonathanjones02</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/09/08/palin-and-the-politics-of-family/#comment-36241</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark, 

I look foward to the time when you are either willing or able to address this important topic substantively, with more light than heat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, </p>
<p>I look foward to the time when you are either willing or able to address this important topic substantively, with more light than heat.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark DeFrancisis</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/09/08/palin-and-the-politics-of-family/#comment-36226</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark DeFrancisis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Major League Baseball&#039;s superstars are now predominantly Central and Southern American.

I guess this has to with their innate differenes, huh? 

Your racial stuff is laughable and without substance....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Major League Baseball&#8217;s superstars are now predominantly Central and Southern American.</p>
<p>I guess this has to with their innate differenes, huh? </p>
<p>Your racial stuff is laughable and without substance&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald A. Naus</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/09/08/palin-and-the-politics-of-family/#comment-36203</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerald A. Naus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure, men and women are different, men commit almost all the crimes. Women do better in school and college. Men are more likely to commit suicide. Most &#039;deadbeat&#039; parents are &#039;deadbeat dads&#039;. Clearly, women should be in charge :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, men and women are different, men commit almost all the crimes. Women do better in school and college. Men are more likely to commit suicide. Most &#8216;deadbeat&#8217; parents are &#8216;deadbeat dads&#8217;. Clearly, women should be in charge :-)</p>
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		<title>By: love the girls</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/09/08/palin-and-the-politics-of-family/#comment-36200</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[love the girls]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael Iafrate writes : &quot;Christianity which infects just about every Christian church in the united states (as do homophobic, sexist, and racist “Christianities”).&quot;

Homophobic?  As in recognizing that homosexual acts are sinful?

Or do you deny that homosexual acts are by nature sinful?  
__________

Sexist?  As in recognizing that God made man and women different?  And that their roles in society are different according to that difference.  

Or do you deny that God made men and women differently?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Iafrate writes : &#8220;Christianity which infects just about every Christian church in the united states (as do homophobic, sexist, and racist “Christianities”).&#8221;</p>
<p>Homophobic?  As in recognizing that homosexual acts are sinful?</p>
<p>Or do you deny that homosexual acts are by nature sinful?<br />
__________</p>
<p>Sexist?  As in recognizing that God made man and women different?  And that their roles in society are different according to that difference.  </p>
<p>Or do you deny that God made men and women differently?</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald A. Naus</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/09/08/palin-and-the-politics-of-family/#comment-36199</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerald A. Naus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh come on, the sudden concerns of liberal writers are rather amusing. 

The Catholic church got over racism in this country, a few decades ago, of course sexism and homophobia are still around, if one views exclusion of women from leadership/ordination and the church&#039;s view of homosexuality as such. I don&#039;t care about the former, no one is forced to be Catholic. The latter I particularly care about when the bishops, like here in California, campaign against gay rights. 

Alaskan Pentecostals handle caribous, btw. 

Ah, if only all people were Unitarian Universalists. The worst that could happen is that they&#039;d come burn a question mark on your lawn.

I don&#039;t know any &quot;Assembly of God&quot; people, nor can I keep all the sects in the USA apart. I imagine it might be scary to attend. I&#039;m a fan of Palin&#039;s mainly because she sticks it to Obama. McCain is no holy roller, so that&#039;s comforting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on, the sudden concerns of liberal writers are rather amusing. </p>
<p>The Catholic church got over racism in this country, a few decades ago, of course sexism and homophobia are still around, if one views exclusion of women from leadership/ordination and the church&#8217;s view of homosexuality as such. I don&#8217;t care about the former, no one is forced to be Catholic. The latter I particularly care about when the bishops, like here in California, campaign against gay rights. </p>
<p>Alaskan Pentecostals handle caribous, btw. </p>
<p>Ah, if only all people were Unitarian Universalists. The worst that could happen is that they&#8217;d come burn a question mark on your lawn.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know any &#8220;Assembly of God&#8221; people, nor can I keep all the sects in the USA apart. I imagine it might be scary to attend. I&#8217;m a fan of Palin&#8217;s mainly because she sticks it to Obama. McCain is no holy roller, so that&#8217;s comforting.</p>
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		<title>By: S.B.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[S.B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blackadder -- that makes a lot more sense.  Thanks.  Of course, I&#039;d bet MM would never admit it.  After he&#039;s invested so much energy in claiming that Obama &gt; McCain because Obama would be less likely to invade foreign countries, it would cause him too much cognitive dissonance to admit that Obama is sneering at McCain for not promising to invade Pakistan!  (Even I know that it might be a bit touchy to invade an unstable nuclear power that is constantly in hostile relations with its neighbors, e.g., India).  I expect MM to promptly change the subject, probably with a tu quoque along the way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blackadder &#8212; that makes a lot more sense.  Thanks.  Of course, I&#8217;d bet MM would never admit it.  After he&#8217;s invested so much energy in claiming that Obama &gt; McCain because Obama would be less likely to invade foreign countries, it would cause him too much cognitive dissonance to admit that Obama is sneering at McCain for not promising to invade Pakistan!  (Even I know that it might be a bit touchy to invade an unstable nuclear power that is constantly in hostile relations with its neighbors, e.g., India).  I expect MM to promptly change the subject, probably with a tu quoque along the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J. Iafrate</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/09/08/palin-and-the-politics-of-family/#comment-36196</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael J. Iafrate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;Another liberal first, worrying about being aggressive on abortion :-P
At the end of the campaign all liberal journalists will have turned into Rad Trads.&lt;/i&gt;

There you go again, Gerald. Thinking like CNN.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Another liberal first, worrying about being aggressive on abortion :-P<br />
At the end of the campaign all liberal journalists will have turned into Rad Trads.</i></p>
<p>There you go again, Gerald. Thinking like CNN.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J. Iafrate</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael J. Iafrate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;Or hear him talk about Wright’s ’screwed up Christianity’ ? In general, what happened to ‘our separated brothers and sisters’ on Vox Nova ?&lt;/I&gt;

I&#039;m consistently impressed with your inability to distinguish, Gerald. I&#039;m not sure where you got the idea that all types of &quot;Christianity&quot; are created equal, nor am I sure exactly where your sudden &quot;ecumenical&quot; spirit comes from. Why is it that because I think Palin&#039;s distorted Christianity is false, I should then disapprove of Wright? Are you not able to look at the details of two different forms of Christianity and make judgments about them based on what you see? Is no one who calls him or herself Christian able to be out of bounds? Does your sudden ecumenical generosity also extend to Fred Phelps?

The problem, perhaps, is that you cannot think past the TV media&#039;s level of religious analysis which has been constantly talking about the &quot;issue&quot; of Palin&#039;s &quot;Pentecostalism.&quot; (CNN for example reported on her &quot;Pentecostal&quot; views as if all Pentecostals think like Sarah Palin. They don&#039;t.) Perhaps therefore you (and the gentleman I was conversing with in another thread about this issue) think it is Pentecostalism that I have a problem with. Not at all. I have a problem with nationalistic, idolatrous Christianity which infects just about every Christian church in the united states (as do homophobic, sexist, and racist &quot;Christianities&quot;). This is not an issue of &quot;ecumenism&quot; as much as you would like to summon the power of that word. It would be nice if you could think a little harder than CNN. At least give it a try.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Or hear him talk about Wright’s ’screwed up Christianity’ ? In general, what happened to ‘our separated brothers and sisters’ on Vox Nova ?</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m consistently impressed with your inability to distinguish, Gerald. I&#8217;m not sure where you got the idea that all types of &#8220;Christianity&#8221; are created equal, nor am I sure exactly where your sudden &#8220;ecumenical&#8221; spirit comes from. Why is it that because I think Palin&#8217;s distorted Christianity is false, I should then disapprove of Wright? Are you not able to look at the details of two different forms of Christianity and make judgments about them based on what you see? Is no one who calls him or herself Christian able to be out of bounds? Does your sudden ecumenical generosity also extend to Fred Phelps?</p>
<p>The problem, perhaps, is that you cannot think past the TV media&#8217;s level of religious analysis which has been constantly talking about the &#8220;issue&#8221; of Palin&#8217;s &#8220;Pentecostalism.&#8221; (CNN for example reported on her &#8220;Pentecostal&#8221; views as if all Pentecostals think like Sarah Palin. They don&#8217;t.) Perhaps therefore you (and the gentleman I was conversing with in another thread about this issue) think it is Pentecostalism that I have a problem with. Not at all. I have a problem with nationalistic, idolatrous Christianity which infects just about every Christian church in the united states (as do homophobic, sexist, and racist &#8220;Christianities&#8221;). This is not an issue of &#8220;ecumenism&#8221; as much as you would like to summon the power of that word. It would be nice if you could think a little harder than CNN. At least give it a try.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald A. Naus</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/09/08/palin-and-the-politics-of-family/#comment-36194</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerald A. Naus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another liberal first, worrying about being aggressive on abortion :-P
At the end of the campaign all liberal journalists will have turned into Rad Trads.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another liberal first, worrying about being aggressive on abortion :-P<br />
At the end of the campaign all liberal journalists will have turned into Rad Trads.</p>
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		<title>By: David Nickol</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/09/08/palin-and-the-politics-of-family/#comment-36191</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Nickol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Newsweek raises the question about how aggressive Palin has been regarding abortion as governor of Alaska. 

http://www.newsweek.com/id/157541]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newsweek raises the question about how aggressive Palin has been regarding abortion as governor of Alaska. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/157541" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsweek.com/id/157541</a></p>
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		<title>By: blackadderiv</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I take it that Obama&#039;s line about the cave was a reference to the statement Obama made last year suggesting that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20070536&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;he would send troops into Pakistan&lt;/a&gt;. He was, in other words, trying to out-hawk McCain, which is a scary thought, actually.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take it that Obama&#8217;s line about the cave was a reference to the statement Obama made last year suggesting that <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20070536" rel="nofollow">he would send troops into Pakistan</a>. He was, in other words, trying to out-hawk McCain, which is a scary thought, actually.</p>
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