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	<title>Comments on: Archbishop of Baltimore sets conditions for the Legionaries of Christ</title>
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		<title>By: Mark DeFrancisis</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/06/11/archbishop-of-baltimore-sets-conditions-for-the-legionaries-of-christ/#comment-24505</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark DeFrancisis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has anyone seen their Father Jonathan shill for the Fox News Network?

One time he defended Sean Hannity from a strident priest head of some prolife organization, which I cannot remember., while all three were present. The whole thing was like some Renaissance revenge tragedy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone seen their Father Jonathan shill for the Fox News Network?</p>
<p>One time he defended Sean Hannity from a strident priest head of some prolife organization, which I cannot remember., while all three were present. The whole thing was like some Renaissance revenge tragedy.</p>
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		<title>By: Katerina</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/06/11/archbishop-of-baltimore-sets-conditions-for-the-legionaries-of-christ/#comment-24463</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katerina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Except for black people, Muslims, the poor, Appalachians, women….&lt;i&gt;

...Hispanic and Southeast Asia immigrants]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Except for black people, Muslims, the poor, Appalachians, women….</i><i></p>
<p>&#8230;Hispanic and Southeast Asia immigrants</i></p>
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		<title>By: Katerina</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/06/11/archbishop-of-baltimore-sets-conditions-for-the-legionaries-of-christ/#comment-24462</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katerina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Andrea is a troll]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Andrea is a troll</p>
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		<title>By: Apolonio</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/06/11/archbishop-of-baltimore-sets-conditions-for-the-legionaries-of-christ/#comment-24457</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Apolonio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah it was kinda weird how &quot;liberal&quot; was mentioned. I was thinking about how Andrea said that she was sad that we represent the Church. Frankly, I love the fact that there are some angry, stupid, and weird people here. I know I belong ;-) The Church is the concrete reality that Christ was made to be sin. 

If there is no tension in the Church, then there is some problem. The Church should make us restless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah it was kinda weird how &#8220;liberal&#8221; was mentioned. I was thinking about how Andrea said that she was sad that we represent the Church. Frankly, I love the fact that there are some angry, stupid, and weird people here. I know I belong ;-) The Church is the concrete reality that Christ was made to be sin. </p>
<p>If there is no tension in the Church, then there is some problem. The Church should make us restless.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Karlson</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/06/11/archbishop-of-baltimore-sets-conditions-for-the-legionaries-of-christ/#comment-24383</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henry Karlson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrea

So following Bishop&#039;s statements is what it takes to be &quot;ultra liberal&quot;? If I didn&#039;t know better, I would think some of the things you have said about yourself was not true. There is a rhetorical tactic and flourish throughout all you have said as a means to belittle and ignore the issues at hand, the kind which is normative by members of a certain little group..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrea</p>
<p>So following Bishop&#8217;s statements is what it takes to be &#8220;ultra liberal&#8221;? If I didn&#8217;t know better, I would think some of the things you have said about yourself was not true. There is a rhetorical tactic and flourish throughout all you have said as a means to belittle and ignore the issues at hand, the kind which is normative by members of a certain little group..</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J. Iafrate</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/06/11/archbishop-of-baltimore-sets-conditions-for-the-legionaries-of-christ/#comment-24377</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael J. Iafrate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;This is why we are the last group in which bigorty is accepted by our country.&lt;/I&gt;

Except for black people, Muslims, the poor, Appalachians, women....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This is why we are the last group in which bigorty is accepted by our country.</i></p>
<p>Except for black people, Muslims, the poor, Appalachians, women&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Apolonio</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/06/11/archbishop-of-baltimore-sets-conditions-for-the-legionaries-of-christ/#comment-24375</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Apolonio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[andrea,

being humble actually means loving the truth more than yourself no matter where it comes from, even from a hypocrite or proud person or even a person &quot;without love.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>andrea,</p>
<p>being humble actually means loving the truth more than yourself no matter where it comes from, even from a hypocrite or proud person or even a person &#8220;without love.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/06/11/archbishop-of-baltimore-sets-conditions-for-the-legionaries-of-christ/#comment-24374</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow - you guys are ultra liberal!  And ultra ANGRY!

I do not support the legion personally, but your attacks and true VENOM tells a lot.  I see a lot of self righteousness,  if I could only hear one drop of truth or humility, I could be convinced.  Or especially what Our Dear St. Paul, to whom this liturgical year is dedicated - &quot;but without love&quot;...  

I&#039;m signing off this site.  It is not good for my soul - and I am so saddenned that so many of you represent our Church.  This is why we are the last group in which bigorty is accepted by our country.

In the end, May God bless your souls, so you may answer His grace.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; you guys are ultra liberal!  And ultra ANGRY!</p>
<p>I do not support the legion personally, but your attacks and true VENOM tells a lot.  I see a lot of self righteousness,  if I could only hear one drop of truth or humility, I could be convinced.  Or especially what Our Dear St. Paul, to whom this liturgical year is dedicated &#8211; &#8220;but without love&#8221;&#8230;  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m signing off this site.  It is not good for my soul &#8211; and I am so saddenned that so many of you represent our Church.  This is why we are the last group in which bigorty is accepted by our country.</p>
<p>In the end, May God bless your souls, so you may answer His grace.</p>
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		<title>By: jh</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/06/11/archbishop-of-baltimore-sets-conditions-for-the-legionaries-of-christ/#comment-24361</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;And yes Mrs. Kennedy, your husband has been shot, but it is a beautiful day and tomorrow always comes….&quot;

I am not exactly sure the point you are trying to get across.  I will quote the  article

JA:Opus Dei was founded in the late 1920s and the Legionaries in the 1950s. If one wanted to be an optimist, is it possible to say that the Legionaries are moving down a path that Opus Dei and others have travelled before, and that they too will change?

AB O&#039;Brien I hope so, because it does a lot of good. It’s 96 percent good work, and 4 percent that’s almost a sect. It’s just 4 percent … but if it’s a question of immoral or even illegal operations, even if it’s just 1 percent, you’ve got to address it. 


I am tad concerned about that 96 that does good work. I am not so ready to take a hammer and destroy a Church movement into a million bits that does good work and produces good fruits.

We see similar struggles and moments as to the Neo-Catechumenate Way. Which by the way has had it majors source of controversies especially the last couple of months

I saw some troublesome  in the Catholic Charismatic Renewal but what once it was engaged in a constructive manner it has became a grace to the Church in many places.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And yes Mrs. Kennedy, your husband has been shot, but it is a beautiful day and tomorrow always comes….&#8221;</p>
<p>I am not exactly sure the point you are trying to get across.  I will quote the  article</p>
<p>JA:Opus Dei was founded in the late 1920s and the Legionaries in the 1950s. If one wanted to be an optimist, is it possible to say that the Legionaries are moving down a path that Opus Dei and others have travelled before, and that they too will change?</p>
<p>AB O&#8217;Brien I hope so, because it does a lot of good. It’s 96 percent good work, and 4 percent that’s almost a sect. It’s just 4 percent … but if it’s a question of immoral or even illegal operations, even if it’s just 1 percent, you’ve got to address it. </p>
<p>I am tad concerned about that 96 that does good work. I am not so ready to take a hammer and destroy a Church movement into a million bits that does good work and produces good fruits.</p>
<p>We see similar struggles and moments as to the Neo-Catechumenate Way. Which by the way has had it majors source of controversies especially the last couple of months</p>
<p>I saw some troublesome  in the Catholic Charismatic Renewal but what once it was engaged in a constructive manner it has became a grace to the Church in many places.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Favreau</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/06/11/archbishop-of-baltimore-sets-conditions-for-the-legionaries-of-christ/#comment-24358</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenn Favreau]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, Mrs. Lincoln, besides the shooting, did you enjoy the play?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Mrs. Lincoln, besides the shooting, did you enjoy the play?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark DeFrancisis</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/06/11/archbishop-of-baltimore-sets-conditions-for-the-legionaries-of-christ/#comment-24357</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark DeFrancisis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Again movements take time to develop.&quot;

...And yes Mrs. Kennedy, your husband has been shot, but it is a beautiful day and tomorrow always comes....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Again movements take time to develop.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;And yes Mrs. Kennedy, your husband has been shot, but it is a beautiful day and tomorrow always comes&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: jh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that is a very good interview of the Archbishop and also very fair. I tpoinjtws out the problems and yet points out the good they are doing. Again movements take time to develop.

I do hope if the LEgion does comply and meets these requirement that it will be noted by it critics]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that is a very good interview of the Archbishop and also very fair. I tpoinjtws out the problems and yet points out the good they are doing. Again movements take time to develop.</p>
<p>I do hope if the LEgion does comply and meets these requirement that it will be noted by it critics</p>
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