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		<title>By: The Best Abortion Can Offer &#171; Vox Nova</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/05/28/the-best-abortion-can-offer/#comment-46728</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Best Abortion Can Offer &#171; Vox Nova]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Best Abortion Can&#160;Offer  Back in May of &#8216;08 I wrote this post and it is a good reminder of what women and men may look forward to when they choose to kill their [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Best Abortion Can&nbsp;Offer  Back in May of &#8216;08 I wrote this post and it is a good reminder of what women and men may look forward to when they choose to kill their [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Prince Lackadasia</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/05/28/the-best-abortion-can-offer/#comment-22693</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Prince Lackadasia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 22:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why are we not congratulating this organization for avoiding stereotypical representations and for giving women a forum to share their experiences of abortion from a wide variety of perspectives? 

The stories of anguish that Radical Catholic Mom cites did not slip in against the intentions of the Women&#039;s Health Center. The stated purpose of this section of their website is to share stories to promote understanding and healing -- all kinds of stories from women with very different perspectives on abortion.  Barbara&#039;s story, which RCM discusses,  is in fact clearly and unambiguously pro-life. In short, the Women&#039;s Health Center deserves credit for NOT suppressing stories that complicate or that frankly disagree with a simplistic pro-choice line.

That said, I spent some time reading these stories and I do think they are more diverse than RCM suggests. For example, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fwhc.org/stories/kathleen.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kathleen&lt;/a&gt; asserts she has never felt regret. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fwhc.org/stories/ann.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ann&lt;/a&gt; tells a harrowing story of being raped by her boyfriend in Pre-Roe days and the agony of bearing the child that kept her connected to an incredibly abusive man. 

Radical Catholic Mom and several other commentors are correct that irresponsible or abusive men are the common theme in most of these stories. That suggests that the real solution to the abortion problem is going to be empowering women. Empowerment begins with really listening to women&#039;s experiences and not just trying to shoehorn them into our position on abortion rights. Seems like the Feminist Women&#039;s Health Center has gone a long way toward doing this. Have we?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are we not congratulating this organization for avoiding stereotypical representations and for giving women a forum to share their experiences of abortion from a wide variety of perspectives? </p>
<p>The stories of anguish that Radical Catholic Mom cites did not slip in against the intentions of the Women&#8217;s Health Center. The stated purpose of this section of their website is to share stories to promote understanding and healing &#8212; all kinds of stories from women with very different perspectives on abortion.  Barbara&#8217;s story, which RCM discusses,  is in fact clearly and unambiguously pro-life. In short, the Women&#8217;s Health Center deserves credit for NOT suppressing stories that complicate or that frankly disagree with a simplistic pro-choice line.</p>
<p>That said, I spent some time reading these stories and I do think they are more diverse than RCM suggests. For example, <a href="http://www.fwhc.org/stories/kathleen.htm" rel="nofollow">Kathleen</a> asserts she has never felt regret. <a href="http://www.fwhc.org/stories/ann.htm" rel="nofollow">Ann</a> tells a harrowing story of being raped by her boyfriend in Pre-Roe days and the agony of bearing the child that kept her connected to an incredibly abusive man. </p>
<p>Radical Catholic Mom and several other commentors are correct that irresponsible or abusive men are the common theme in most of these stories. That suggests that the real solution to the abortion problem is going to be empowering women. Empowerment begins with really listening to women&#8217;s experiences and not just trying to shoehorn them into our position on abortion rights. Seems like the Feminist Women&#8217;s Health Center has gone a long way toward doing this. Have we?</p>
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		<title>By: Taliesin</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/05/28/the-best-abortion-can-offer/#comment-22664</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Taliesin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 19:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you rcm for bearing witness once again, damingly out of the cyber-mouths of those who cheer abortion to the rafters, that for those undergoing it it it is often hell, and that again and again the constant is absent male s**** who run away when the time comes for decisions. If only the Church could make it more clear in her anti-abortion witness that the blame falls equally, if not more, on the men who run away as much as the women who are left behind to walk the valley of the shadow of death without the Lord there to guide them.

Anathema to the abortionist.
Anathema to the executioner.
Anathema to the warmonger.
Anathema to the devotee of realpolitik.
Anathema to the worshipper of the Kali-free market.
Anathema to all who art a  sustainer of poverty.

Anaethema to all enemies of life.

Maranatha Jesu, come and cast Death and Hades and all their servants into the lake of fire.

The right to choose is the ultimate triumph of freemarket principles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you rcm for bearing witness once again, damingly out of the cyber-mouths of those who cheer abortion to the rafters, that for those undergoing it it it is often hell, and that again and again the constant is absent male s**** who run away when the time comes for decisions. If only the Church could make it more clear in her anti-abortion witness that the blame falls equally, if not more, on the men who run away as much as the women who are left behind to walk the valley of the shadow of death without the Lord there to guide them.</p>
<p>Anathema to the abortionist.<br />
Anathema to the executioner.<br />
Anathema to the warmonger.<br />
Anathema to the devotee of realpolitik.<br />
Anathema to the worshipper of the Kali-free market.<br />
Anathema to all who art a  sustainer of poverty.</p>
<p>Anaethema to all enemies of life.</p>
<p>Maranatha Jesu, come and cast Death and Hades and all their servants into the lake of fire.</p>
<p>The right to choose is the ultimate triumph of freemarket principles.</p>
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		<title>By: radicalcatholicmom</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/05/28/the-best-abortion-can-offer/#comment-22536</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[radicalcatholicmom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 14:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Arewak, the goal was to counteract the frequent claim by pro-choice and the abortion industry that abortion is &quot;no big deal.&quot;  From PP&#039;s site on abortion: &quot;Some women experience anger, regret, guilt, or sadness for a short time. &quot;  That is NOT what these letters show.  

Who said ANYTHING about the Supreme Court?

And I DO believe that these letters are a form of education.  They cut through the hype created by those who want abortion on demand.  Did you check out the site?  All they show are happy smiling women on their page.  On the letters section, why aren&#039;t they showing women crying, devastated, or lonely?  They don&#039;t and they should.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arewak, the goal was to counteract the frequent claim by pro-choice and the abortion industry that abortion is &#8220;no big deal.&#8221;  From PP&#8217;s site on abortion: &#8220;Some women experience anger, regret, guilt, or sadness for a short time. &#8221;  That is NOT what these letters show.  </p>
<p>Who said ANYTHING about the Supreme Court?</p>
<p>And I DO believe that these letters are a form of education.  They cut through the hype created by those who want abortion on demand.  Did you check out the site?  All they show are happy smiling women on their page.  On the letters section, why aren&#8217;t they showing women crying, devastated, or lonely?  They don&#8217;t and they should.</p>
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		<title>By: arewak</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/05/28/the-best-abortion-can-offer/#comment-22534</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[arewak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 13:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No Daniel, didn&#039;t mean it that way. Its just seems like the post is reaching for one more reason to show that abortion is evil and I&#039;m saying that its not very productive. However, unlike our resident &#039;pro-lifers&#039; who use abortion as a crutch for voting in degenerates, I think that we cannot depend on supreme court justices to fight this evil. The fight will be won at the grassroots by motivated and well-meaning folks (that&#039;s all of us)through prayer vigils, education, adoptions,counseling, etc. I guess to any extent the above post does any of these, I stand corrected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Daniel, didn&#8217;t mean it that way. Its just seems like the post is reaching for one more reason to show that abortion is evil and I&#8217;m saying that its not very productive. However, unlike our resident &#8216;pro-lifers&#8217; who use abortion as a crutch for voting in degenerates, I think that we cannot depend on supreme court justices to fight this evil. The fight will be won at the grassroots by motivated and well-meaning folks (that&#8217;s all of us)through prayer vigils, education, adoptions,counseling, etc. I guess to any extent the above post does any of these, I stand corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Nichols</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/05/28/the-best-abortion-can-offer/#comment-22528</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Nichols]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 03:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Among the saddest things I have ever read.

You know, arewak, there is a lot more to the Way of Christ than moral principle. If Jesus Christ the Word could empty Himself and take on our pitiful state, would it be too much to ask you to show a little sympathy for poor lost sinners?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Among the saddest things I have ever read.</p>
<p>You know, arewak, there is a lot more to the Way of Christ than moral principle. If Jesus Christ the Word could empty Himself and take on our pitiful state, would it be too much to ask you to show a little sympathy for poor lost sinners?</p>
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		<title>By: arewak</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/05/28/the-best-abortion-can-offer/#comment-22526</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[arewak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 03:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even if having an abortion is the most wonderful experience there is, it&#039;s still immoral. Therefore, the point of this post is somewhat lost on me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if having an abortion is the most wonderful experience there is, it&#8217;s still immoral. Therefore, the point of this post is somewhat lost on me.</p>
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		<title>By: HA</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/05/28/the-best-abortion-can-offer/#comment-22512</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 00:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve often found the abortion-related posts on PostSecret to be heart-rending as well, though one never knows how many of those are legitimate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve often found the abortion-related posts on PostSecret to be heart-rending as well, though one never knows how many of those are legitimate.</p>
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		<title>By: feddie</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/05/28/the-best-abortion-can-offer/#comment-22511</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[feddie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 22:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What MZ said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What MZ said.</p>
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		<title>By: M.Z. Forrest</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/05/28/the-best-abortion-can-offer/#comment-22497</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M.Z. Forrest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 19:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes anecdotes are more powerful than data, and in this case they are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes anecdotes are more powerful than data, and in this case they are.</p>
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