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  1. May 27, 2008 3:14 pm

    Sweet, you’re supporting the Second Amendment. I am my own well-armed militia :o)

  2. May 27, 2008 4:49 pm

    Too often, then, the spectre of subsidiarity is used to ignore another key principle: solidarity. In fact, these principles must act in unison.

    Yes.

  3. May 27, 2008 5:13 pm

    I agree with a lot with this post. However, and I have seen this topic before, it is for the most part not feasable to have the military tied into local units epsecially as to spending. If there are papers advocating this from from a Catholic point of view as to the Unite States I would like to see it.

    Having 50 states trying to do their own thing as increasing military systems that must be integrated would be something to see. Would Louisiana have to buy the Cruiser and California the Aircaraft Carrier?

    Though I guess it would be romantic to return to the days where many of the leading Universities become again Military Acadamies and have that even on the high school level we are way past that. It ain’t coming back.

  4. May 27, 2008 5:25 pm

    I would speculate that we don’t need the world’s largest and 7th largest navies, the US Navy and Coast Guard respectively. There are places we could cut in the military, not to mention we probably don’t need a nationalized military except when we are actually at war.

    Good post MM.

  5. TeutonicTim permalink
    May 27, 2008 5:27 pm

    MM – Yet again you ignore the power of Christians to solve problems without “the state”. Yes, there needs to be government involvement in certain aspects of life. Charity is also very powerful and can provide the goal you are looking for.

  6. May 27, 2008 6:27 pm

    “I would speculate that we don’t need the world’s largest and 7th largest navies, the US Navy and Coast Guard respectively.”

    Heavens to Betsy!! Needess to say the Coast Guard is vey rtaxed and underfunded as it is. I t seems we ar eenterign a age where a Navy is need more.

    Having a Nation like the UNited States armed with Nuclear weaposn with no Nationalized Army is a dangererou sthing.

  7. none permalink
    May 27, 2008 6:43 pm

    The US Coast Guard is exempt from the Posse Comitatus Act–the US Navy isn’t.

  8. Daniel H. Conway permalink
    May 27, 2008 8:29 pm

    “Charity is also very powerful and can provide the goal you are looking for.”

    As elicited by whom, for whom? Even charities receive a biting on St. Blog’s critique-only charities with unskilled workers with “feed and leave” policies and with few professional staff receive the over-venerated “Seal of Fr. Sirico’s Approval.” Or the charities have to be so tiny as to impact policy and a community as little as possible-this is another group of conservatives’ latest diversion.

    Where does the community stand? Is there no such thing as community? Why is it that those bewailing the “power of the state” when it comes to such horrors as executing a housing or feeding program (and simultaneously embrace its ability to obliterate entire cultures by its military ends) never have typed the word “community?”

    What is the community? Who is involved in it and what is our responsibility towards it?

  9. TeutonicTim permalink
    May 27, 2008 9:14 pm

    The community is who can provide the Charity. You won’t hear me extol the virtues of making the state uber alles when it comes to social issues. One need only to look at the history of Christian charity and organization sans “the state”.

  10. Daniel H. Conway permalink
    May 28, 2008 8:56 am

    The “state” can provide the charity.

    Are they the community? And who is the state? If one attends to definitions put out by Grover Norquist, who finds his local PTA and Board of Ed to be depriving him of life and liberty to shocking degrees, then the local community government is equal to a Nazi regime. Is it a church parish? But what about the local food pantry at the municipal center-is that a typical example of the horrors of the overreach of the state, promoting a godless utopia as Weigel and Novak would have one believe?

    Who is this dreaded boogie man “the state?” Where is it overlapping in the community? And why is this word “the state” supposed to inspire such dramatic fear? Its use as such speaks more to the political philosophy’s of those who use it.

  11. TeutonicTim permalink
    May 28, 2008 12:52 pm

    Not really. The community can’t force someone by threat of jail, execution, or just general good ol’ dictatorial enforcement. Those are relegated to “the state”.

  12. scriblerus permalink
    May 28, 2008 7:54 pm

    Many modern economic institutions justified by free market principles actually work against the principle of subsidiarity by taking certain goods away from the oversight of those who should have responsibility for those goods. All sorts of family matters are examples of this sort of development.

  13. May 28, 2008 9:49 pm

    [i]the current system whereby impersonal insurance companies make money by denying coverage and denying claims is about as clear a violation of subsidiarity as is possible.[/i]

    We can’t use subsidiarity to argue against single-payer health care but you can use it to argue against private insurance?

    If you want to play like that they the system I advocate, subsidized HSAs, is subsidiarity at its finest. Neither government nor private insurers stand between the patient and the doctor.

  14. May 30, 2008 2:28 pm

    Quite! The principle of subsidiarity is not about being “anti-government” but rather about what level of government various services ought to operate at. It’s that simple.

  15. June 1, 2008 1:31 am

    The salient question is which government you’re talking about.

    “Small government” means both of two things: keeping the federal government to just its Constitutional limitations and no more, and doing as much as possible at the local level.

    This is not in contrast with solidarity or the “common good,” as vast bureaucracies can never be in the “common good.” The one thing lacking in Magisterial documents on social issues is the wisdom of Lord Acton. Whenever big bureaucracies try to “do good,” they take it upon themselves to decide what that “good” is.

    Subsidiarity is about recognizing the family as the basic unit of society and giving as much authority as possible to the family. That authority is to be found in the active *local* goverments that were intended by America’s founders.

    A true subsidiarist does not trust corporate or federal bureaucracies.

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