What kind of candidate attracts 85yo women like that? I think I need a shower.

Go to hell. I’m out of here.

YOU IDIOTS. Abortion is ALREADY LEGAL. NOTHING Barack Obama says about abortion can change anything.

Sounds like you need to do more homework on just what is legal/established and what is as yet not re: life questions. And…if you depend so much upon the Supreme Court’s future for addressing the legal holocaust, I’d suggest that that alone should give you reason to not be so passive about Mr. Obama.

Obama’s votes and official positions deny the right to life to three categories of human beings: the unborn, the “accidentally” born and, at least in one case, the adult “unfit.” ………

…….Obama not only opposes the right to life, his opposition is his highest priority. “The first thing I’d do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act,” he told Planned Parenthood last July. That would make America more friendly to the abortion industry than any other country in the world.

http://ncregister.com/site/article/14928/

YOU IDIOTS. Abortion is ALREADY LEGAL. NOTHING Barack Obama says about abortion can change anything. No matter how much he worships before NARAL and other pathetic organizations claiming to protect women’s ‘rights’, abortion remains as legal as ever. No matter how much Bush pays lip service to the pro-life movement (while supporting torture, unjust wars, and the death penalty), NOTHING he says or does can actually make abortion itself illegal.

IT IS IN THE HANDS OF THE SUPREME COURT. Only they can overturn Roe v. Wade. Even then, most states have laws in effect to make abortion legal in the event it is overturned.

Wake up you idiots. Supporting a politician who happens to be pro-choice DOES NOT make you pro-abortion. Similarly, supporting OUR IDIOTIC PRESIDENT BUSH does not make you a stupid, pro-torture, pro-death MORON.

Now, I realize that asking for coherence from a Republican/Catholic/Obama-booster is perhaps asking for too much, and if the man was denied communion unjustly — as seems to be the case — then the chaplain surely needs to be corrected, but given the totality of Kmiec’s recent record (especially in light of what Joe and the CrankyCon pointed out above and what bloggers like DarwinCatholic have written about), is it too much to ask to withhold condemnation until we hear the other side of the story?

Spoken with all the logic one would expect from Catholics for Obama. Let’s suppose, just for the sake of supposition, that 90% of Catholics were in agreement that Katherine’s views didn’t warrant hate mail. That would still be a broad consensus by most anyone’s definition, and yet it would leave over five million Catholics in the US to write nasty emails to their twisted hearts’ content. Even when multiplied through by the small percentage of Catholics who are aware of her politics and capable of emailing her, that’s enough to pack many a mailbox.

It is important to understand that while the gravity of abortion may outweigh all other issues, and may even outweigh the combined weight of all other issues, one must still evaluate the practical consequences relative to each issue.

Look, we’re talking here about a known candidate who has continued to this day to even desire the death of an abortion surviving infant within the very institution trusted by the state to come to the aid of every human being – to leave him to die on a cold utility room shelf of that institution. That has been decided by this candidate to go forth with into an administration that will ensure that such things will continue to be permitted…with even more laws against the compassionate and morally responsible. We know that. It is a given; understood. If you use your free will to enable such horror to be completed; activate itself through this man’s authority you at least are holding the coat of the killers. This is the greatest horror/abomination in the eyes of the Creator EVER! And He should be permitted to be cavalierly received by such persons by their very position know with the greatest of clarity this evil? And the minister knows of such public scandal that consciously supports and enables such grave evil? A loving Protestant would be more worthy!

I’ll speak in place, in defense of all of those tortured babies who will have instruments stuck in their little heads or just left cruelly to die because they’re silent in these comment zones. They won’t benefit in the future either by this blah, blah, blah:

One can (and arguably should) support Candidate Y if one concludes that both Candidate X and Candidate Y have a 5% chance of resolving Issue A while both Candidate X and Candidate Y have an 80% chance of resolving Issue B. The Church can and does give much guidance on how one should or must assign moral gravity indexes (though even there the Church rightly eschews mathematical precision), but the assessment of the relative likelihoods of various outcomes among candidates falls pretty much exclusively inside the rhelm of prudential judgment.

Meanwhile the same people watch the great heroics it is taking to get one 8 months pregnant mother out of her buried “grave” of some 50 hours in the China quake disaster…or the rescue from another concrete womb of one other infant there. How symbolic a juxtaposition to our own permissive slaughter. “And the people said Amen” to that continued slaughter with their votes. This is a country that has also massacred a comparable percentage of their own. Watch out America for your own future. It appears that that God Who is so “mathematically precise” is moving a bit more aggressively these days against abusers of the innocent than you might like to believe. JPII warned of the greatest confrontation between evil and good that is taking place now in these our own times. He warned to choose life….or else. The lines couldn’t be more darkly drawn….but the equivocators need to be shocked into the right choice….for their own good.

I think that is a good point. WHich is why I wonder why we spend so much time on whether a person lets say running for Congress or President supports the State Execution. 99 pecent of that is occuring at the state level. That goes for people that make that a issue whether pro or con.

I suppoe one could make an argument for someone that intends to use the BUlly Puplit to speak against State sanctioned execuction but who on the radar is going to do that. That would be indeed I suppose be valid. ON the flip side one would oppose someone that would use the BUlly Puplit aspect of the office to oppose Catholic Teaching