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		<title>By: gracesong815</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/05/13/non-religious-arguments/#comment-21766</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, but how about those situations when you&#039;re discussing religion with an atheist and he should ask you why you trust the bible out of all possible holy texts? The atheist isn&#039;t going to take the answer, Because the Bible states that it is the Word of God&quot; for a proper answer. Please don&#039;t take this as any sort of facetiousness on my part. Just attempting to sort this all out.
As to your comment about non-Christians being hardly a majority, i&#039;d have to respectfully disagree. The Bible does have its place in the discussions, and I do think that it is sharper than any two-edged sword. However, aren&#039;t there many things about God that have been revealed outside of His Word, e.g. the order of creation?
Iris]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, but how about those situations when you&#8217;re discussing religion with an atheist and he should ask you why you trust the bible out of all possible holy texts? The atheist isn&#8217;t going to take the answer, Because the Bible states that it is the Word of God&#8221; for a proper answer. Please don&#8217;t take this as any sort of facetiousness on my part. Just attempting to sort this all out.<br />
As to your comment about non-Christians being hardly a majority, i&#8217;d have to respectfully disagree. The Bible does have its place in the discussions, and I do think that it is sharper than any two-edged sword. However, aren&#8217;t there many things about God that have been revealed outside of His Word, e.g. the order of creation?<br />
Iris</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Jones</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/05/13/non-religious-arguments/#comment-21544</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 18:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps there is a fallback to religious arguments, or rather assertions, because secular &quot;arguments,&quot; on the popular level, consist of emoting with passion.  

What I see as my own problem is a tendency to oversecularize.  I&#039;ll provide a secular argument for X, but then neglect to link this to the theological reasoning that can often perfect it.

In part, this is to avoid cluttering the argument with more disputed topics in cases where one isn&#039;t talking with a Christian.  

However, it can be disingenuous to avoid what one considers to be the most important of one&#039;s reasons for a belief.  

Further, in the U.S. especially, non-Christians are hardly a majority.  A well-wrought appeal to Scripture can engage more people than it disengages.

Perhaps if better theological arguments were made in public, there&#039;d be fewer superficial religious appeals.  A brief digression about man being in the image and likeness of God or about Christ&#039;s love for the poor can enrich, rather than distract from, the discussion.  Compare the Imago Dei to the nihilistic premises of certain pundits, and you&#039;ll attract sympathy, if not agreement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps there is a fallback to religious arguments, or rather assertions, because secular &#8220;arguments,&#8221; on the popular level, consist of emoting with passion.  </p>
<p>What I see as my own problem is a tendency to oversecularize.  I&#8217;ll provide a secular argument for X, but then neglect to link this to the theological reasoning that can often perfect it.</p>
<p>In part, this is to avoid cluttering the argument with more disputed topics in cases where one isn&#8217;t talking with a Christian.  </p>
<p>However, it can be disingenuous to avoid what one considers to be the most important of one&#8217;s reasons for a belief.  </p>
<p>Further, in the U.S. especially, non-Christians are hardly a majority.  A well-wrought appeal to Scripture can engage more people than it disengages.</p>
<p>Perhaps if better theological arguments were made in public, there&#8217;d be fewer superficial religious appeals.  A brief digression about man being in the image and likeness of God or about Christ&#8217;s love for the poor can enrich, rather than distract from, the discussion.  Compare the Imago Dei to the nihilistic premises of certain pundits, and you&#8217;ll attract sympathy, if not agreement.</p>
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		<title>By: Thursday</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/05/13/non-religious-arguments/#comment-21540</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 18:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the link.  It&#039;s nice to have appreciative readers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link.  It&#8217;s nice to have appreciative readers.</p>
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		<title>By: gracesong815</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/05/13/non-religious-arguments/#comment-21499</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I couldn&#039;t agree with you more!
As I&#039;m technically categorized as a Bible-believing Christian, I see so many others around me of my own faith turn to Christian books and literature for help in dialoguing with those who do not hold their view, not realizing that Christian books, while they may be helpful, appear to others as just a crutch.
Thanks for bringing this point up!
Iris]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more!<br />
As I&#8217;m technically categorized as a Bible-believing Christian, I see so many others around me of my own faith turn to Christian books and literature for help in dialoguing with those who do not hold their view, not realizing that Christian books, while they may be helpful, appear to others as just a crutch.<br />
Thanks for bringing this point up!<br />
Iris</p>
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