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	<title>Comments on: The Church blesses the patrias</title>
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		<title>By: M.Z. Forrest</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/16/the-church-blesses-the-patriae/#comment-18888</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M.Z. Forrest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ellos ya reclaman que actuamos como si somos arriba ellos. La escritura en español los confirma en su creencia. 

(Yes, I just used an online translator.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellos ya reclaman que actuamos como si somos arriba ellos. La escritura en español los confirma en su creencia. </p>
<p>(Yes, I just used an online translator.)</p>
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		<title>By: Tito</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/16/the-church-blesses-the-patriae/#comment-18883</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tito]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Poli,

Anunciar agradable.

Viva America!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poli,</p>
<p>Anunciar agradable.</p>
<p>Viva America!</p>
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		<title>By: Katerina</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/16/the-church-blesses-the-patriae/#comment-18880</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katerina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sam,

Si, yo creo que nadie entendio esta pieza, porque estan hablando de otra cosa que no esta relacionado con lo que Policraticus escribio.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,</p>
<p>Si, yo creo que nadie entendio esta pieza, porque estan hablando de otra cosa que no esta relacionado con lo que Policraticus escribio.</p>
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		<title>By: DarwinCatholic</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/16/the-church-blesses-the-patriae/#comment-18879</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DarwinCatholic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Br. Matthew,

Thank you.

Henry,

Indeed, I did not mean to suggest that non-conservatives to not appreciate the value of work for others, peace, self sacrifice, etc.  Far from it.  I am convinced that many non-conservatives are indeed passionately interested in responsibility in the world.

All I would like to point out, and is sometimes too seldom acknowledge in these pages, is that an appreciation for the service of military personnel, and a belief that their sacrifices serve to protect freedom, is not necessarily an expression of militarism and nationalism.  

And let&#039;s be honest, if Donald McClarey or I had said exactly the same words of the pope&#039;s that I quoted, we would have been jumped all over and told we had no appreciation for a true Catholic understanding of freedom.

I&#039;m not trying to score points again non-conservatives.  I&#039;m simply asking that perhaps next time a phrase like &quot;those who have given their lives for freedom&quot; comes up in regards to our military, people remember the pope&#039;s words and be less quick to throw around buzz-words.  In other words: I&#039;m suggesting a little more charity and thought in discourse here.  

Surely that couldn&#039;t be a bad thing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Br. Matthew,</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>Henry,</p>
<p>Indeed, I did not mean to suggest that non-conservatives to not appreciate the value of work for others, peace, self sacrifice, etc.  Far from it.  I am convinced that many non-conservatives are indeed passionately interested in responsibility in the world.</p>
<p>All I would like to point out, and is sometimes too seldom acknowledge in these pages, is that an appreciation for the service of military personnel, and a belief that their sacrifices serve to protect freedom, is not necessarily an expression of militarism and nationalism.  </p>
<p>And let&#8217;s be honest, if Donald McClarey or I had said exactly the same words of the pope&#8217;s that I quoted, we would have been jumped all over and told we had no appreciation for a true Catholic understanding of freedom.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to score points again non-conservatives.  I&#8217;m simply asking that perhaps next time a phrase like &#8220;those who have given their lives for freedom&#8221; comes up in regards to our military, people remember the pope&#8217;s words and be less quick to throw around buzz-words.  In other words: I&#8217;m suggesting a little more charity and thought in discourse here.  </p>
<p>Surely that couldn&#8217;t be a bad thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/16/the-church-blesses-the-patriae/#comment-18874</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 01:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MI, 

Sounds good.  I think we can have a fruitful conversation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MI, </p>
<p>Sounds good.  I think we can have a fruitful conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Iafrate</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/16/the-church-blesses-the-patriae/#comment-18869</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Iafrate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 01:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Poli, Zach, 

I have intended to work through Novak&#039;s book as well... maybe our readings will correspond? Just finished a paper/seminar presentation on Appalachian studies and post/de-colonial theology. Whew. I&#039;m throwing a few back tonight w/ some live bluegrass music. Writing takes a lot out of me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poli, Zach, </p>
<p>I have intended to work through Novak&#8217;s book as well&#8230; maybe our readings will correspond? Just finished a paper/seminar presentation on Appalachian studies and post/de-colonial theology. Whew. I&#8217;m throwing a few back tonight w/ some live bluegrass music. Writing takes a lot out of me.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Iafrate</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/16/the-church-blesses-the-patriae/#comment-18868</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Iafrate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 01:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Out of Poli&#039;s list, I choose #2.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of Poli&#8217;s list, I choose #2.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/16/the-church-blesses-the-patriae/#comment-18867</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 01:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heyo

Definitely - I ought to be working on a close-of-semester project of my own.

Good luck with the end of the semester.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heyo</p>
<p>Definitely &#8211; I ought to be working on a close-of-semester project of my own.</p>
<p>Good luck with the end of the semester.</p>
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		<title>By: Policraticus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Policraticus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 00:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zach,

I&#039;m glad you got and read the book!  I would like very much to discuss it either here or at Civics Geeks.  Can you give me a few more weeks?  I am currently in term paper mode and will be until the first week of May.  Once my semester is over, I&#039;ll time to return to Novak more thoughtfully.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zach,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you got and read the book!  I would like very much to discuss it either here or at Civics Geeks.  Can you give me a few more weeks?  I am currently in term paper mode and will be until the first week of May.  Once my semester is over, I&#8217;ll time to return to Novak more thoughtfully.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Rocha</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/16/the-church-blesses-the-patriae/#comment-18864</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam Rocha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry I forgot this is America, and we don&#039;t speak no Mexican around here. I&#039;ll go back to where I came from...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I forgot this is America, and we don&#8217;t speak no Mexican around here. I&#8217;ll go back to where I came from&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Rocha</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/16/the-church-blesses-the-patriae/#comment-18862</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam Rocha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Que Dios bendiga a todos los que leen y entienden Espanol, porque sin esa abilidad no pueden apreciar esta pieza.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Que Dios bendiga a todos los que leen y entienden Espanol, porque sin esa abilidad no pueden apreciar esta pieza.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/16/the-church-blesses-the-patriae/#comment-18860</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Poli,

Sorry to spam your post, but I have no other way to ask - have you thought anymore about posting your detailed thoughts on Michael Novak&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Spirit of Democratic Capitalism&lt;/i&gt;? A while back we had a conversation and you convinced me to read and buy the book, which I have recently done. 

I was hoping to continue the conversation with you if you were still interested; after reading the book I would like to hear your criticisms.  I&#039;m posting some selections from it along with my simplistic commentary over on my blog, http://civicsgeeks.blogspot.com - if you get a chance check it out, I&#039;d be interested to hear what you think.

Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Poli,</p>
<p>Sorry to spam your post, but I have no other way to ask &#8211; have you thought anymore about posting your detailed thoughts on Michael Novak&#8217;s <i>Spirit of Democratic Capitalism</i>? A while back we had a conversation and you convinced me to read and buy the book, which I have recently done. </p>
<p>I was hoping to continue the conversation with you if you were still interested; after reading the book I would like to hear your criticisms.  I&#8217;m posting some selections from it along with my simplistic commentary over on my blog, <a href="http://civicsgeeks.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://civicsgeeks.blogspot.com</a> &#8211; if you get a chance check it out, I&#8217;d be interested to hear what you think.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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