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	<title>Comments on: EWTN interviews Bush on Papal visit&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: St. Dominic</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/15/ewtn-interviews-bush-on-papal-visit/#comment-19124</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[St. Dominic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 15:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even if what you stated is true, it is obvious that Mr. Bush has not adopted the philosophy of Margret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, which of course promoted eugenics in its early days, and some of its actions still reflect a direct relation to that evil philosophy. A question that must be asked, what types of politicians get &quot;millions of dollars of support&quot; for their political campaigns from Planned Parenthood. While perhaps Mr. Bush&#039;s ancestors did, he does not.

Good day]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if what you stated is true, it is obvious that Mr. Bush has not adopted the philosophy of Margret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, which of course promoted eugenics in its early days, and some of its actions still reflect a direct relation to that evil philosophy. A question that must be asked, what types of politicians get &#8220;millions of dollars of support&#8221; for their political campaigns from Planned Parenthood. While perhaps Mr. Bush&#8217;s ancestors did, he does not.</p>
<p>Good day</p>
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		<title>By: jpf</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/15/ewtn-interviews-bush-on-papal-visit/#comment-19032</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;So, given that President Bush was validly Baptised in the Anglican Church, and since he would have been baptized over 50 years ago before the Episcopal Church in the U.S. adopted radical theology (abortion is a good act, women priests, same-sex marriages, etc), one can safely assume that Mr. Bush was baptized in the name of the Trinity and not in the name of Mother God, Christ our brother/sister and the four winds of the spirit.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

Maybe Margret Sanger was his godmother since she and his grandfather Senator Bush were such buddies when he was helping her to raise funds for Planned Parenthood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>So, given that President Bush was validly Baptised in the Anglican Church, and since he would have been baptized over 50 years ago before the Episcopal Church in the U.S. adopted radical theology (abortion is a good act, women priests, same-sex marriages, etc), one can safely assume that Mr. Bush was baptized in the name of the Trinity and not in the name of Mother God, Christ our brother/sister and the four winds of the spirit.</b></i></p>
<p>Maybe Margret Sanger was his godmother since she and his grandfather Senator Bush were such buddies when he was helping her to raise funds for Planned Parenthood.</p>
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		<title>By: jpf</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/15/ewtn-interviews-bush-on-papal-visit/#comment-19031</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jpf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Saying Bush is the most Catholic president we&#039;ve ever had is like saying Clinton was our first black president.  All it means is he panders to us more than any other president has so far.  It also means Catholics and pro-lifers are more gullible than the black electorate in that they have gotten far less from Bush and the Republican party than African Americans have from the Democratic Party.

I&#039;d bet my bottom dollar that if it weren&#039;t an election year ol&#039;W would be sittin&#039; at home eat&#039;n a hot dog.  I have nothing but distain for the Clinton&#039;s who say or do anything to win an election.   But they are rank amatures when it comes to the Bush family.  Blue blooded liberal country club east coast Republicans who are willing to say or do anything to get  elected to office.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saying Bush is the most Catholic president we&#8217;ve ever had is like saying Clinton was our first black president.  All it means is he panders to us more than any other president has so far.  It also means Catholics and pro-lifers are more gullible than the black electorate in that they have gotten far less from Bush and the Republican party than African Americans have from the Democratic Party.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d bet my bottom dollar that if it weren&#8217;t an election year ol&#8217;W would be sittin&#8217; at home eat&#8217;n a hot dog.  I have nothing but distain for the Clinton&#8217;s who say or do anything to win an election.   But they are rank amatures when it comes to the Bush family.  Blue blooded liberal country club east coast Republicans who are willing to say or do anything to get  elected to office.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Iafrate</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/15/ewtn-interviews-bush-on-papal-visit/#comment-18863</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Iafrate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jay - The pres does not represent me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay &#8211; The pres does not represent me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/15/ewtn-interviews-bush-on-papal-visit/#comment-18827</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps for the next few hours we can honor that quaint old AMerican Custom that the President of the USA represents us all and take pride that he be showing Hospitality and Honor to the Bishop of Rome in about a hour.

I feel a group hug coming on]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps for the next few hours we can honor that quaint old AMerican Custom that the President of the USA represents us all and take pride that he be showing Hospitality and Honor to the Bishop of Rome in about a hour.</p>
<p>I feel a group hug coming on</p>
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		<title>By: SB</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/15/ewtn-interviews-bush-on-papal-visit/#comment-18809</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This last exchange is virtually unprecedented.  I hope the VN bloggers themselves are paying attention.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This last exchange is virtually unprecedented.  I hope the VN bloggers themselves are paying attention.</p>
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		<title>By: feddie</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/15/ewtn-interviews-bush-on-papal-visit/#comment-18796</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[feddie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark-

Once again, apology accepted. And once again, I&#039;ve been there, bro. There are many highs and lows to blogging. no doubt about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark-</p>
<p>Once again, apology accepted. And once again, I&#8217;ve been there, bro. There are many highs and lows to blogging. no doubt about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark DeFrancisis</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/15/ewtn-interviews-bush-on-papal-visit/#comment-18792</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark DeFrancisis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Feddie,

I am genuinely sorry for all the heat and no light that I have contributed to our blog encounters. 

No need to be /too charitable&#039;, I have been oftetimes artless, and at a few too many times, downright offensive.

I am new to blogging, believe it or not, and that &quot;send&quot; button is all too easy to hit --unreflectively and many times regrettably. Blackadder&#039;s wonderful post on the subject, after our terrible duel a few weeks ago, has been a tonic I have been only learning to take.

My apologies to you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feddie,</p>
<p>I am genuinely sorry for all the heat and no light that I have contributed to our blog encounters. </p>
<p>No need to be /too charitable&#8217;, I have been oftetimes artless, and at a few too many times, downright offensive.</p>
<p>I am new to blogging, believe it or not, and that &#8220;send&#8221; button is all too easy to hit &#8211;unreflectively and many times regrettably. Blackadder&#8217;s wonderful post on the subject, after our terrible duel a few weeks ago, has been a tonic I have been only learning to take.</p>
<p>My apologies to you.</p>
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		<title>By: feddie</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/15/ewtn-interviews-bush-on-papal-visit/#comment-18780</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[feddie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark-

My intention was not to besmirch you, but to apologize to Henry for asserting that he has chosen to support a presidential candidate. He has not. It does appear sometimes as if he is in the Obama camp, but that is just speculation on my part, and it is unfair to label someone as an Obama supporter when he is clearly not one. The decision to support a particular candidate, as you know, is a very personal decision.

Also, I have no doubt, having read many thoughtful and &quot;artful&quot; comments from you here at Vox Nova, that you thoughtfully considered the issues before deciding to vote for Senator Obama. To the extent I suggested otherwise, I certainly apologize. 

Nevertheless, I continue to believe that there are not &quot;proportionate reasons&quot; that justify such a vote, and if that offends you then there&#039;s nothing I can do about that.

*Fwiw, &quot;Lord knows&quot; is a Southern thing. It was not intended to offend. But if you were offended then I once again, I apologize.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark-</p>
<p>My intention was not to besmirch you, but to apologize to Henry for asserting that he has chosen to support a presidential candidate. He has not. It does appear sometimes as if he is in the Obama camp, but that is just speculation on my part, and it is unfair to label someone as an Obama supporter when he is clearly not one. The decision to support a particular candidate, as you know, is a very personal decision.</p>
<p>Also, I have no doubt, having read many thoughtful and &#8220;artful&#8221; comments from you here at Vox Nova, that you thoughtfully considered the issues before deciding to vote for Senator Obama. To the extent I suggested otherwise, I certainly apologize. </p>
<p>Nevertheless, I continue to believe that there are not &#8220;proportionate reasons&#8221; that justify such a vote, and if that offends you then there&#8217;s nothing I can do about that.</p>
<p>*Fwiw, &#8220;Lord knows&#8221; is a Southern thing. It was not intended to offend. But if you were offended then I once again, I apologize.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark DeFrancisis</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/15/ewtn-interviews-bush-on-papal-visit/#comment-18779</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark DeFrancisis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But I am 40. And this should should sadden me more, as I know my failings all to well.

Peace, my friend .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I am 40. And this should should sadden me more, as I know my failings all to well.</p>
<p>Peace, my friend .</p>
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		<title>By: Mark DeFrancisis</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/15/ewtn-interviews-bush-on-papal-visit/#comment-18774</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark DeFrancisis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I know none of them and have never read any of their remarks, it was most unkind for me to formulate anything about their modus operandi in matters of debate and/or intellectual inquiry.


&quot;...I agree that calling you an Obama supporter is tantamout the name calling. Lord knows I would be ofended if someone called me one.&quot;

I will ignore your further offense in regard to invoking the name of the Lord once again in your artless attempt to provoke and besmirch those who after long, long reflection show any sympathies for crucial aspects of the Obama candicacy. 

I thought you were, say, 23-25, but was saddened to find out that you are closer to 40.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I know none of them and have never read any of their remarks, it was most unkind for me to formulate anything about their modus operandi in matters of debate and/or intellectual inquiry.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;I agree that calling you an Obama supporter is tantamout the name calling. Lord knows I would be ofended if someone called me one.&#8221;</p>
<p>I will ignore your further offense in regard to invoking the name of the Lord once again in your artless attempt to provoke and besmirch those who after long, long reflection show any sympathies for crucial aspects of the Obama candicacy. </p>
<p>I thought you were, say, 23-25, but was saddened to find out that you are closer to 40.</p>
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		<title>By: feddie</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2008/04/15/ewtn-interviews-bush-on-papal-visit/#comment-18773</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[feddie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark-

Apology accepted, friend. I have been guilty of such comments in the past too. We all fall short every so often.

And btw, just so you know, your comment prompted me to edit an overly harsh post that I made on Southern Appeal yesterday. I thank you for that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark-</p>
<p>Apology accepted, friend. I have been guilty of such comments in the past too. We all fall short every so often.</p>
<p>And btw, just so you know, your comment prompted me to edit an overly harsh post that I made on Southern Appeal yesterday. I thank you for that.</p>
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