No. And I have said nothing to suggest that I think they should be ignored. And the fact that you even asked me this question, in an apparently deliberate attempt to misrepresent my views, confirms for me that you should be ignored.

I think we can agree that our nation’s issues are ultimately spiritual, and we can both be steadfast in prayer for this country we love.

do you really think the unborn should be ignored? You of all people ought to hold the value of an unborn human life to a higher level than that.

It is not about voting for a Republican or Deathocrat… it’s about not voting for a rabidly pro-abortion candidate, and the result of not voting for the alternative a candidate who is opposed to most abortions and has stated he will nominate justices likely to overturn Roe vs. Wade, by all accounts the necessary precursor to eliminating abortion in the US… if that’s what you really want.

God Bless,

Matt

Yes, because that’s how long it took to get enough conservative justices on the Supreme Court to rule that way on the issue. Obama or Hillary appointees (over the span of 4 to 8 years and decades thereafter) would work against any progress in restricting abortion.

It took about four presidencies and 35 years to get to this point.

If this is so, then a simple vote for or against a republican isn’t the hinge on which this issue turns, is it?

The pro-abortion community is desperate to stop the progress and gladly awaits your non-participation in November.

I look forward to being your scapegoat, then, in one way or another.

At the risk of beating a dead horse, I must dissent here:

“the banning of partial birth abortion is hardly a victory for those who uphold the sanctity of all life. Even pro-life hero Fr. Thomas Euteneuer said as much: ‘[N]ot one baby will be saved by this decision because the abortion industry will just alter their procedures for killing late-term babies and call it by a different name.’”

I’m sorry, but the American legal community recognizes that the ban on partial-birth abortion as a truly significant decision–a landmark decision. It is the first crack in the long line of Roe v. Wade decisions and quite possibly the beginning of the end for Roe (at the outrage of Obama and Hillary). I’m sorry if you cannot appreciate that achievement, but this may be the first step in saving many, many babies! It took about four presidencies and 35 years to get to this point. The pro-abortion community is desperate to stop the progress and gladly awaits your non-participation in November.

Republicatholics do the same thing in reverse: amplifying the supposed differences between the two parties so that they will feel guiltless voting for republicans, i.e. the republicans are the “party of life” while the dems are the “party of death.” This is a flat lie, and this kind of thinking is not the thinking of the Church, who speaks about a “culture of death” and a “culture of life.” Both parties are the protectors of the culture of death, the republicans just as much as the democrats. Republicatholics either lack the conscience to be able see that republican platform of war, torture, individualism, racism, etc are death-dealing and evil, or they actually are in fact in favor of these same policies which are contrary to what their Church teaches. I tend to believe more and more that the latter is true. The longer I live outside of the immediate american context, the more I see how truly bizarre american Catholicism with its partisan thinking really is.

Jay, the banning of partial birth abortion is hardly a victory for those who uphold the sanctity of all life. Even pro-life hero Fr. Thomas Euteneuer said as much:

“[N]ot one baby will be saved by this decision because the abortion industry will just alter their procedures for killing late-term babies and call it by a different name.”

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=9145

Contrary to what you suggest, I do not think that there is a presidential “magic wand” that will end abortion, which is PRECISELY why I do not trust republicatholic insistence that I vote for a republican if I want to end abortion.

U.S. Citizens ultimatley participate in this particular American republic by voting.

I’m sorry if you think voting is the “ultimate” way in which we participate in democracy. I think that is, indeed, what the powers want us to think, and you have fallen for it. Democracy means much more than that. Was it Emma Goldman who said, “If voting changed anything, they would make it illegal”?

If you choose not to vote at all, you have no business attempting to sway other voters. It’s called hypocrisy.

I’m sure I am in some ways a hypocrite. But MY gauge for measuring that is the Gospel and the Church, as opposed to the “good u.s. citizen” yardstick that you seem so fascinated by. If you judge me a hypocrite based on the ideals of “the republic,” I could care less, my friend.

Michael, the only thing necessary to be a liberal is to be oblivious to the facts. Why don’t you take your own advice and “look at the amazing results of Bush…”:

FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE ROE V. WADE, THE SUPREME COURT (THANKS TO BUSH APPOINTEES) FINALLY VOTED TO UPHOLD A TOTAL BAN ON A PARTICUALR TYPE OF ABORTION.

A president’s nominees are a huge part of his or her legacy!!! Wake up my friend.

Don’t tell me or anyone else that Bush hasn’t done anything for the unborn. I submit he’s done just about everything in his power to do so — except for waving that imaginery magic wand you seem to think he’s hiding.

U.S. Citizens ultimatley participate in this particular American republic by voting. If you don’t care to vote AT ALL or participate in our democracy, the rest of us voters can figure things out without your annoying rhetoric. (You should at least have the good sense to vote 3rd party.) If you choose not to vote at all, you have no business attempting to sway other voters. It’s called hypocrisy.

Get the book, “Our Fight 4 Terri,” offered here: http://www.fight4terri.com/main/ and you will see how Bush did not “stick to his guns.” You can see a discussion of such starting on page 388.

It was one of many times where Bush really proved where he stood (and that was as a politician who says everything for votes, but does nothing).

The GOP is very far from perfect. But liberal Catholics talk themselves into believing that Bush has done “nothing” for the pro-life cause. They want to console themselves into believing that there is no difference between donks and Republicans on this issue so they can feel guiltless voting for the Dems.

Sounds like Obama-messiah-mania has crept into the McCain camp as well. This was the same crap the Bush heads peddled 8 years ago, and again 4 years ago and so many Catholics were duped by it. And look at the amazing results 8 years of Bush has accomplished for the unborn. All we were left with is an intensification of the culture of death through the normalization of war and empire, and a new republican candidate who wants to extend that policy for centuries (if america even lasts that long).

And if you don’t care to vote at all in November, feel free to stop posting your political opinions on this blog for the next four years thereafter.

Ah, voting as sacrament. Even if one is a principled nonvoter, he is invited to sit down and shut up for he has not paid proper homage.