Comments on: On McCain and Hagee

By: Vox Nova’s First Anniversary « Vox Nova

Vox Nova’s First Anniversary « Vox Nova — Fri, 16 May 2008 05:40:57 +0000

[...] On McCain and Hagee [...]

By: Matt

Matt — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 02:33:16 +0000

Fascinating, this blog still has not had an equivalent thread to this one on Obama the death lover’s long association with the racist Jeremiah Wright. I thought surely there would be pretense of objectivity… apparently not.

God Bless,

Matt

By: Tito of Custos Fidei

Tito of Custos Fidei — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:47:47 +0000

BlackAdder,

THAT was funny. I appreciate your wit very much.

By: Southern Appeal » Peering into the demented mind of the America-hating left

Southern Appeal » Peering into the demented mind of the America-hating left — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 05:38:26 +0000

[...] recently, there was some discussion at Vox Nova over Reverend Wright’s disgraceful comments about our great republic, with several commenters [...]

By: Matt

Matt — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 04:24:41 +0000

MM,

I’m still waiting to hear what is wrong with this pastor, Wright. I confess I have never heard or read anything be wrote or said until yesterday. But there is nothing that bad in what I have seen. Am I missing something? Is he really as bad as the bloodthirsty cabal of Hagee and Parsley? Please enlighten me.

I trust you clicked the link and watched the vile racist hatred spewed from his lips? Far worse than anything from Hagee and Parsley.

Speaking of Bloodthirsty – here is the latest refusal by Obama and Clinton to consider providing any sort of assistance to the child in the womb:
Obama/Clinton oppose healthcare for unborn children and their mothers, McCain supports it

The same evil pair support funding for abortion on demand, how ironic. Good old Deathocrat Party…

God Bless,

Matt

By: JohnB

JohnB — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:55:56 +0000

No other ethnic group in the U.S. has experienced the same level of abuse and hatred as African Americans have. I am inclined to be sympathetic even to statements as offensive as Pastor Wright’s. Nevertheless, it is not productive to deny that they are offensive.

I don’t really imput blame to Pastor Wright for his views; his grievances are likely legitimate given his experiences. However, the type of rhetoric he uses is unconstructive, and certainly will not help heal the racial divide in this country. It is disappointing that a national politican would have such a person in a public role in their campaign.

And, of course, McCain’s courting of Hagee who is as offensvie for different reasons is disappointing as well. There is not a clear Catholic candidate here.

By: JohnH

JohnH — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:23:32 +0000

I’m with Darwin on this one. The refusal to criticize and rush to excuse people based on their race is a refusal to respect the intellectual integrity of another human being. It smacks more of racism than anything DarwinCatholic has said.

By: G Alkon

G Alkon — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:05:52 +0000

Darwin–

You’re not understanding all this.

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It is no exaggeration to say that Hagee is a servant of the devil.

He worships weaponry and blood.

By: Stuart Buck

Stuart Buck — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:59:35 +0000

Missing number: A little over 6 percent of Southern Baptists are black. That’s not 20 percent, to be sure, but it’s still striking. The SBC has certainly made some progress over the past few decades.

By: DarwinCatholic

DarwinCatholic — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:59:35 +0000

So just to make sure that I’m understanding all this:

1) It betokens ethnic equality to suggest that we should not question or analyze anything said by people of certain skin colors the way we would the statements of others within our own ethnicity.

2) In order to overcome injustice we should not have a single theology because Christ knows neither rich nor poor, neither Jew nor Greek, neither black nor white — but rather we should have a balkanized patchwork of theologies for each ethnic group.

St. Martin de Porres, pray for us… We need it.

By: Stuart Buck

Stuart Buck — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:57:23 +0000

Sorry, that should have said that the Southern Baptists are 20 percent black, Hispanic, or Asian. But if the SBC has approx. one million black members (as claimed), and the denomination as a whole is 16 million, that’s a little over percent — which means that the percentage of black Southern Baptists is higher than the percentage of all minorities together in the UCC.

By: Stuart Buck

Stuart Buck — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:53:15 +0000

The black church is the greatest and only Christian institution in American history.

Alkon — I dearly love and admire the black church, but you need to turn down your exaggeration meter a notch (or several). Whatever you dislike is a servant of Satan; whatever you like is the greatest institution in history.

The United Church of Christ is a mainline black Protestant church.

No, it’s not. Obama’s particular church is predominantly black, but the UCC as a whole is 95% white.

You may be getting the UCC confused with the AME. Other black churches include National Baptists, the Greater Emanuel Apostolic Church (which is where TD Jakes came from), and others. A lot of Pentecostals and Missionary Baptist churches are black, although many whites belong to those denominations as well.

But definitely not the UCC — you probably can’t find a denomination that has fewer black people. Maybe Unitarians. In fact, Southern Baptists (a denomination that was founded in support of slavery!!) are 20 percent black, which means that they have about 4 times as many black people as the UCC, percentage wise. See http://www.statesman.com/life/content/life/stories/faith/02/23/0223baptists.html