Comments on: John McCain’s Dangerous Friends

By: reformislam

reformislam — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:27:39 +0000

Muslims Against Sharia call on Senators McCain and Obama to cut all ties with their racist, Islamophobic, and anti-Semitic supporters. McCain: http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2008/03/mccains-spiritual-guide-destroy-islam.html Obama: http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2008/03/racist-congregation-cheering-racist.html

By: How Insane Is John McCain?

How Insane Is John McCain? — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:32:38 +0000

The double standard is absurd.

By: What’s Wrong with Wright? « Vox Nova

What’s Wrong with Wright? « Vox Nova — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:06:33 +0000

[...] therefore, there is no evidence that Wright is supporting violence. On the other hand, McCain’s new friends– Protestant ministers John Hagee and Rod Parsley– do call for a war between America and [...]

By: Southern Appeal » Peering into the demented mind of the America-hating left

Southern Appeal » Peering into the demented mind of the America-hating left — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:50:47 +0000

[...] recently, there was some discussion at Vox Nova over Reverend Wright’s disgraceful comments about our great republic, with [...]

By: Phillip

Phillip — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:40:24 +0000

Sure it can, given MM’s logic and that of Obama’s church.

By: jpf

jpf — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:46:22 +0000

Phillip:

You assume that prior to Pearl Harbor the USA was just sitting around minding its own business and a totally neutral nation. The majority of US citizens wanted to be neutral in this conflict between pre-existing empires (England & France) and wanna be empires (Germany & Japan); however, U.S. leaders were quite vocal in their support of the UK and providing them with substantial aid (lend lease) in its attempt to defend its empire in the middle and Far East from Germany and Japan.

Phillip, do you think that the US has the right to attack Syria or Iran if it can be shown that they are providing aid to insurgents in Iraq?

By: Phillip

Phillip — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:00:34 +0000

But you know, maybe you are right. Maybe the root cause of America’s nuclear attack on Japan was its bombing of Pearl Harbor, invasion of China etc. Just making a point on why it happened.

By: Phillip

Phillip — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:55:47 +0000

Yes and they were wrong as you are.

By: Morning's Minion

Morning's Minion — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:31:40 +0000

Phillip:

You are confused. What do you mean by “justify 9/11″? It is two very different things to claim: (i) the policies of the United States led directly to the hatred that took the form of terrorism; (ii) the United States somehow deserved be to attacked. Point (i) is rational common sense, which is why the Church talks about tackling the root causes of terrorism. Point (ii) is a grave evil, supposing a God who condones the murder of innocents. From what I gather, Obama’s preacher (just like Ron Paul) is making point (i). On the other hand, people like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson made the second poing after 9/11. This needs to be distinguished.

By: Phillip

Phillip — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:48:35 +0000

And while the Church stresses the one-ness of the human race, it also teaches patriotism as a virtue. This is not to deny that wrongs have been done and that there are not things that need correcting now. But it does make one balk at saying 9/11 as a “backlash” is a reasonable thing to say.

By: Phillip

Phillip — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:21:02 +0000

MM,

Not putting things in terms of the US. Just using your failed logic. Obama’s hate filled minister justifies 9/11 because of past offenses by American persons. You accept the “backlash”. Just look at what American’s in the past have done as “backlash.” Its your logic. Its failed. And you’re right not to accept it. Glad I had a hand in opening your mind a little.

By: Morning's Minion

Morning's Minion — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:10:33 +0000

T. Shaw: please define what you mean by “liberal”, since you like annoying them so much. I suspect you are using tha term in its current American, flawed, usage– this is meaningless in Catholic circles. So please, try to get beyind your secular ideology.

Let me point out everybody here is an orthodox Catholic, and probably more in line with Church teachings than many on the cafeteria right, who (along with some on the left) claim the right to interpret the faith in a personal manner.