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	<title>Comments on: Obama: On Toughness and Success in Politics</title>
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		<title>By: Southern Appeal &#187; Calvinst, Codpiece Politics</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/12/22/obama-toughness-and-success-in-politics/#comment-24796</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Southern Appeal &#187; Calvinst, Codpiece Politics]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] But I suspect his more pacifist leaning supporters might find this kind of distinctly &#8221;American&#8221; talk disturbing coming from a man they believe &#8220;has the capacity to summon heroic forces from the spiritual depths of ordinary citizens and to unlea....&#8221; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But I suspect his more pacifist leaning supporters might find this kind of distinctly &#8221;American&#8221; talk disturbing coming from a man they believe &#8220;has the capacity to summon heroic forces from the spiritual depths of ordinary citizens and to unlea&#8230;.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: paul zummo</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/12/22/obama-toughness-and-success-in-politics/#comment-7683</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paul zummo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;For his part, Obama has the capacity to summon heroic forces from the spiritual depths of ordinary citizens and to unleash therefrom a symphonic chorus of unique creative acts whose common purpose is to tame the soul and alleviate the great challenges facing mankind.&lt;/i&gt;

Umm.  Yeah. For those of us with an IQ above ten, he simply represents a trite politician who borrows his rhetoic from Oprah Winfrey.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>For his part, Obama has the capacity to summon heroic forces from the spiritual depths of ordinary citizens and to unleash therefrom a symphonic chorus of unique creative acts whose common purpose is to tame the soul and alleviate the great challenges facing mankind.</i></p>
<p>Umm.  Yeah. For those of us with an IQ above ten, he simply represents a trite politician who borrows his rhetoic from Oprah Winfrey.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/12/22/obama-toughness-and-success-in-politics/#comment-7578</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obama&#039;s &quot;tough&quot; all right:

&lt;i&gt;. . . Jill Stanek, a registered delivery-ward nurse who was the prime mover behind the legislation after she witnessed aborted babies’ being born alive and left to die, testified twice before Obama in support of the Induced Infant Liability Act bills. She also testified before the U.S. Congress in support of the Born Alive Infant Protection Act.

Stanek told me her testimony “did not faze” Obama.

In the second hearing, Stanek said, “I brought pictures in and presented them to the committee of very premature babies from my neonatal resuscitation book from the American Pediatric Association, trying to show them unwanted babies were being cast aside. Babies the same age were being treated if they were wanted!”

“And those pictures didn’t faze him [Obama] at all,” she said. . . .&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18647#continueA&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama More Pro-Choice than NARAL&lt;/a&gt; &lt;i&gt;Human Events Online&lt;/i&gt; Dec. 26, 2006.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s &#8220;tough&#8221; all right:</p>
<p><i>. . . Jill Stanek, a registered delivery-ward nurse who was the prime mover behind the legislation after she witnessed aborted babies’ being born alive and left to die, testified twice before Obama in support of the Induced Infant Liability Act bills. She also testified before the U.S. Congress in support of the Born Alive Infant Protection Act.</p>
<p>Stanek told me her testimony “did not faze” Obama.</p>
<p>In the second hearing, Stanek said, “I brought pictures in and presented them to the committee of very premature babies from my neonatal resuscitation book from the American Pediatric Association, trying to show them unwanted babies were being cast aside. Babies the same age were being treated if they were wanted!”</p>
<p>“And those pictures didn’t faze him [Obama] at all,” she said. . . .</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18647#continueA" rel="nofollow">Obama More Pro-Choice than NARAL</a> <i>Human Events Online</i> Dec. 26, 2006.</p>
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		<title>By: radicalcatholicmom</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/12/22/obama-toughness-and-success-in-politics/#comment-7570</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[radicalcatholicmom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Rick.  I would have a lot more faith in Obama if he believed ALL human beings were worthy of protection, especially the most defenseless of all.  I think all politicians are suspect when they believe it is ok to take a child into a clinic and kill it.  Very disturbing to say the least.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Rick.  I would have a lot more faith in Obama if he believed ALL human beings were worthy of protection, especially the most defenseless of all.  I think all politicians are suspect when they believe it is ok to take a child into a clinic and kill it.  Very disturbing to say the least.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald R. McClarey</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/12/22/obama-toughness-and-success-in-politics/#comment-7559</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donald R. McClarey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 04:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Well, at least if Obama were elected President Obama would no longer be representing Illinois in the Senate.  No State should have the curse of being represented by both Obama and Durbin. 
As to abortion, Obama isn&#039;t just pro-abort, he uses the issue to raise campaign funds.
http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/10/post_5.php 
That any Catholics would even consider supporting a man with such views speaks volumes about the importance they attach to this issue.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Well, at least if Obama were elected President Obama would no longer be representing Illinois in the Senate.  No State should have the curse of being represented by both Obama and Durbin.<br />
As to abortion, Obama isn&#8217;t just pro-abort, he uses the issue to raise campaign funds.<br />
<a href="http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/10/post_5.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/10/post_5.php</a><br />
That any Catholics would even consider supporting a man with such views speaks volumes about the importance they attach to this issue.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Lugari</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/12/22/obama-toughness-and-success-in-politics/#comment-7557</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Lugari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 03:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry Michael, I didn&#039;t think to post a citation when I wrote that because Obama&#039;s enthusiastic support for abortion-on-demand even to the point of allowing infanticide is pretty well known.  Google his name with words like &quot;born alive&quot; or &quot;infanticide&quot; and you&#039;ll get plenty of hits.  Here&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53795&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;one of many columns&lt;/a&gt; about Obama by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jillstanek.com/bio.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jill Stanek [bio]&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Michael, I didn&#8217;t think to post a citation when I wrote that because Obama&#8217;s enthusiastic support for abortion-on-demand even to the point of allowing infanticide is pretty well known.  Google his name with words like &#8220;born alive&#8221; or &#8220;infanticide&#8221; and you&#8217;ll get plenty of hits.  Here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53795" rel="nofollow">one of many columns</a> about Obama by <a href="http://www.jillstanek.com/bio.html" rel="nofollow">Jill Stanek [bio]</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel H. Conway</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/12/22/obama-toughness-and-success-in-politics/#comment-7555</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel H. Conway]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 03:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is where I have to take the side of the right wing and note that Obama is another &quot;seamless shroud&quot; candidate like Bill Clinton.  And as trustworthy as Mr. GW Bush.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is where I have to take the side of the right wing and note that Obama is another &#8220;seamless shroud&#8221; candidate like Bill Clinton.  And as trustworthy as Mr. GW Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/12/22/obama-toughness-and-success-in-politics/#comment-7553</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 03:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I guess one could call Obama a great leader seeing as he never wavered in his opposition to a law that would outlaw infanticide, wading further into the blood of innocents than even NARAL dared to go.&lt;/i&gt;

Citation or link, please?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I guess one could call Obama a great leader seeing as he never wavered in his opposition to a law that would outlaw infanticide, wading further into the blood of innocents than even NARAL dared to go.</i></p>
<p>Citation or link, please?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Lugari</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/12/22/obama-toughness-and-success-in-politics/#comment-7545</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Lugari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 00:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess one could call Obama a great leader seeing as he never wavered in his opposition to a law that would outlaw infanticide, wading further into the blood of innocents than even NARAL dared to go.    

&lt;em&gt;Authentic and truthful...radiates truth and goodness...exercises sound judgment...serves as a catalyst to awaken the better part of ourselves.&lt;/em&gt;

Heaven help us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess one could call Obama a great leader seeing as he never wavered in his opposition to a law that would outlaw infanticide, wading further into the blood of innocents than even NARAL dared to go.    </p>
<p><em>Authentic and truthful&#8230;radiates truth and goodness&#8230;exercises sound judgment&#8230;serves as a catalyst to awaken the better part of ourselves.</em></p>
<p>Heaven help us.</p>
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		<title>By: Morning's Minion</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/12/22/obama-toughness-and-success-in-politics/#comment-7544</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Morning's Minion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 23:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Obama is the best of the lot, on all sides.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Obama is the best of the lot, on all sides.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Talbot</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/12/22/obama-toughness-and-success-in-politics/#comment-7535</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Talbot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gerald - You&#039;ve highlighted the reasons why I hope Obama gets the Democratic nomination. I sense a possibility for an almost RFK, or even JFK, sense of ignited optimism and idealism, a sharp turn for the better in our culture, should Obama gain the presidency.

I think  people are good and tired of the zero-sum, pilitics-of-division garbage the parties have been serving up to now, and are ready to hear some hope.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerald &#8211; You&#8217;ve highlighted the reasons why I hope Obama gets the Democratic nomination. I sense a possibility for an almost RFK, or even JFK, sense of ignited optimism and idealism, a sharp turn for the better in our culture, should Obama gain the presidency.</p>
<p>I think  people are good and tired of the zero-sum, pilitics-of-division garbage the parties have been serving up to now, and are ready to hear some hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Jones</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/12/22/obama-toughness-and-success-in-politics/#comment-7534</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 20:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good parody.

It was a parody, right?  You sound like a courtier of Louis XIV.  The pretensions of nobility, the pining for a Great Leader, the happy heroism, the extravagant praise--it&#039;d be sickening if you really meant it.

Truly noble souls don&#039;t need encomia.  The American people don&#039;t need a political Prospero to summon their spiritual forces to create a Great America.

Politics should be low and solid: competent with a humble sense of the possible.  Leave the dreaming to John Lennon.

Most people don&#039;t really know what kind of America they want, and even if they did, their desires would be significantly disordered.  Leave creation to God.  We can only preserve, extend, or corrupt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good parody.</p>
<p>It was a parody, right?  You sound like a courtier of Louis XIV.  The pretensions of nobility, the pining for a Great Leader, the happy heroism, the extravagant praise&#8211;it&#8217;d be sickening if you really meant it.</p>
<p>Truly noble souls don&#8217;t need encomia.  The American people don&#8217;t need a political Prospero to summon their spiritual forces to create a Great America.</p>
<p>Politics should be low and solid: competent with a humble sense of the possible.  Leave the dreaming to John Lennon.</p>
<p>Most people don&#8217;t really know what kind of America they want, and even if they did, their desires would be significantly disordered.  Leave creation to God.  We can only preserve, extend, or corrupt.</p>
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