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	<title>Comments on: Rudy&#8217;s &#8220;evolution&#8221; on abortion</title>
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		<title>By: Pauli</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/11/27/rudys-evolution-on-abortion/#comment-5579</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pauli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds more like &lt;i&gt;intelligent design&lt;/i&gt; than evolution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds more like <i>intelligent design</i> than evolution.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald R. McClarey</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/11/27/rudys-evolution-on-abortion/#comment-5576</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donald R. McClarey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mrs. Clinton&#039;s jerkette factor is well-established.  Here is a quote from an interview that Frontline conducted with Dee Dee Myers early this year:

Yeah. And I think because not only would she sort of humiliate you in front of your colleagues or whoever happened to be around. It wasn&#039;t like she did it every day. I found that she wasn&#039;t the most direct person. Although that was very direct, that to me was the exception rather than the rule. Hillary tended to kind of campaign against people behind their back, and that was certainly my experience. She was not happy with me, but she never confronted me. She never had a conversation with me about it. She would go call Leon in and yell at him and then he&#039;d have to call me in and say, &quot;Mrs. Clinton is really upset about X. You said Y, and she disagrees with that, and you know, she wants you to fix it,&quot; or whatever. As opposed to her picking up the phone and calling me. Sometimes it&#039;s appropriate, I think, to go through the chief of staff because it&#039;s the chain of command. Maybe she&#039;s talking to him about six things and one of them is me. But there were times when I thought she should have dealt with me directly and she didn&#039;t.

...I didn&#039;t respect that. If you have a problem with me or anybody else, it doesn&#039;t mean she shouldn&#039;t try achieve whatever outcome she wanted to achieve. But I think there is a certain grace and I just think it&#039;s a bit better politics and personnel management to be direct.&quot; 

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/clinton/interviews/myers3.html


Clinton staffers tended to love Bill, some in more ways than one.  Most of them feared Hillary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. Clinton&#8217;s jerkette factor is well-established.  Here is a quote from an interview that Frontline conducted with Dee Dee Myers early this year:</p>
<p>Yeah. And I think because not only would she sort of humiliate you in front of your colleagues or whoever happened to be around. It wasn&#8217;t like she did it every day. I found that she wasn&#8217;t the most direct person. Although that was very direct, that to me was the exception rather than the rule. Hillary tended to kind of campaign against people behind their back, and that was certainly my experience. She was not happy with me, but she never confronted me. She never had a conversation with me about it. She would go call Leon in and yell at him and then he&#8217;d have to call me in and say, &#8220;Mrs. Clinton is really upset about X. You said Y, and she disagrees with that, and you know, she wants you to fix it,&#8221; or whatever. As opposed to her picking up the phone and calling me. Sometimes it&#8217;s appropriate, I think, to go through the chief of staff because it&#8217;s the chain of command. Maybe she&#8217;s talking to him about six things and one of them is me. But there were times when I thought she should have dealt with me directly and she didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>&#8230;I didn&#8217;t respect that. If you have a problem with me or anybody else, it doesn&#8217;t mean she shouldn&#8217;t try achieve whatever outcome she wanted to achieve. But I think there is a certain grace and I just think it&#8217;s a bit better politics and personnel management to be direct.&#8221; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/clinton/interviews/myers3.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/clinton/interviews/myers3.html</a></p>
<p>Clinton staffers tended to love Bill, some in more ways than one.  Most of them feared Hillary.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Iafrate</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/11/27/rudys-evolution-on-abortion/#comment-5574</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Iafrate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;On what basis do you just assume that “a lot of you folks would vote for this jerk”? Many of us have categorically ruled out voting for Giuliani under any circumstances.&lt;/I&gt;

That&#039;s certainly wonderful to hear. And it&#039;s encouraging to hear that, should Rudy and Hillary win their nominations, that many of you would vote third party. We&#039;ll see how this plays out, I guess. I hope, if it does end up R vs H, that Catholic voters will prove me wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>On what basis do you just assume that “a lot of you folks would vote for this jerk”? Many of us have categorically ruled out voting for Giuliani under any circumstances.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s certainly wonderful to hear. And it&#8217;s encouraging to hear that, should Rudy and Hillary win their nominations, that many of you would vote third party. We&#8217;ll see how this plays out, I guess. I hope, if it does end up R vs H, that Catholic voters will prove me wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackadder</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/11/27/rudys-evolution-on-abortion/#comment-5556</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blackadder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a contest of jerkiness, Rudy wins hands down (he is from New York, after all). To some this is one of his selling points.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a contest of jerkiness, Rudy wins hands down (he is from New York, after all). To some this is one of his selling points.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Anderson</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/11/27/rudys-evolution-on-abortion/#comment-5552</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On what basis do you just assume that &lt;em&gt;&quot;a lot of you folks would vote for this jerk&quot;&lt;/em&gt;? Many of us have categorically ruled out voting for Giuliani under &lt;em&gt;any&lt;/em&gt; circumstances.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On what basis do you just assume that <em>&#8220;a lot of you folks would vote for this jerk&#8221;</em>? Many of us have categorically ruled out voting for Giuliani under <em>any</em> circumstances.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Iafrate</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/11/27/rudys-evolution-on-abortion/#comment-5550</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Iafrate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;I have no doubt that Hillary is a bigger jerkette than Guiliani is a jerk. &lt;/I&gt;

On what basis?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I have no doubt that Hillary is a bigger jerkette than Guiliani is a jerk. </i></p>
<p>On what basis?</p>
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		<title>By: Donald R. McClarey</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/11/27/rudys-evolution-on-abortion/#comment-5547</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donald R. McClarey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If it comes down to Hillary and Rudy, though, a lot of you folks would vote for this jerk, wouldn’t ya? ;)&quot;

Not me, although I have no doubt that Hillary is a bigger jerkette than Guiliani is a jerk.  (Just ask Bill.)  I will not vote for someone who supports abortion on demand, no matter if they have an R after their name.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If it comes down to Hillary and Rudy, though, a lot of you folks would vote for this jerk, wouldn’t ya? ;)&#8221;</p>
<p>Not me, although I have no doubt that Hillary is a bigger jerkette than Guiliani is a jerk.  (Just ask Bill.)  I will not vote for someone who supports abortion on demand, no matter if they have an R after their name.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Iafrate</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/11/27/rudys-evolution-on-abortion/#comment-5534</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Iafrate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;If it comes down to Hillary and Rudy, I might have to consider anarchism again. :)&lt;/I&gt;

That&#039;s what I like to hear! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If it comes down to Hillary and Rudy, I might have to consider anarchism again. :)</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I like to hear! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Blackadder</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/11/27/rudys-evolution-on-abortion/#comment-5532</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blackadder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it comes down to Hillary and Rudy, I might have to consider anarchism again. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it comes down to Hillary and Rudy, I might have to consider anarchism again. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Waddell</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/11/27/rudys-evolution-on-abortion/#comment-5531</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Waddell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;If it comes down to Hillary and Rudy, though, a lot of you folks would vote for this jerk, wouldn’t ya? ;)&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I can&#039;t speak for others, but I wouldn&#039;t. As James Dobson noted, a victory by Republicans with Guliani means the complete marginalization of the pro-life cause. Hillary would be a costly lesson for Republicans, but if they insist on RG, the expected consequences.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;If it comes down to Hillary and Rudy, though, a lot of you folks would vote for this jerk, wouldn’t ya? ;)&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I can&#8217;t speak for others, but I wouldn&#8217;t. As James Dobson noted, a victory by Republicans with Guliani means the complete marginalization of the pro-life cause. Hillary would be a costly lesson for Republicans, but if they insist on RG, the expected consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexham</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/11/27/rudys-evolution-on-abortion/#comment-5529</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not me. I&#039;ll vote third party.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not me. I&#8217;ll vote third party.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Iafrate</title>
		<link>http://vox-nova.com/2007/11/27/rudys-evolution-on-abortion/#comment-5526</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Iafrate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it comes down to Hillary and Rudy, though, a lot of you folks would vote for this jerk, wouldn&#039;t ya? ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it comes down to Hillary and Rudy, though, a lot of you folks would vote for this jerk, wouldn&#8217;t ya? ;)</p>
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